4-Year-Old Boy Suspended from Daycare for Having Tiny .22 Shellcase

Christ Almighty a 4y/o do read what you type or do you WTF lets go with this?

 

Quite honestly, I don't give a dam if a 4 year old gets a week off for bringing in a shell casing. If parents don't agree then find a new day care, not really a controversy from my POV. He'll be just fine.

School is perfectly within their rights.

 

And this goes to show you how absurd this whole thing is.

 

A four-year old. I dunno - I'm starting to think that the people defending what the school did never had kids. Then again, I'm also thinking that if you're all for us standing fast to the rules, you should also be in favor of deporting illegal aliens. I mean, they're breaking the rules too and they're certainly more responsible for themselves than a four-year old. But maybe that's just me.

Lemee tell you how absurd it is. We currently have a kid who has been caught on multiple occasions doing pot. He was caught with hundreds of dollars. He's been caught with school laptops in his possession, which he obviously stole. He walks the hallways during class time without consequences, and when he feels like going wherever he wants, we have been told by our principal to just let him go. The teachers have literally asked who he would have to kill in order to get expelled - and yet, he's still at our school. And that's just one kid, I could give you many more examples.

We have a custodian who has LITERALLY not shown up to work something like 3/5 of the time the last couple of years. He sometimes doesn't even bother to call for a sub. He's done this at another school, and the union's response was to send him to our school, where he continues to do the same thing over and over again. And the union continues to stand by him, will always continue to stand by him. We're paying for someone who is using the system. We all want him gone, yet nothing happens. The guy should have been fired aeons ago and yet we're still stuck with him.

We have a teacher in our district who has been put on administrative leave at least four times that I know of - basically paid vacations that have lasted for years. I won't go over why but he deserved a lot worse. It's only now, after about ten years that the district is finally going to let him go.

And this kid gets suspended for seven days because he brought an empty shell case. Go figure.

 

When I was a kid, my Dad would take me on base and we would hike the obstacle courses on a Sunday afternoon.

We found spent casings all over the place.

I took several to school and my friends and I would make whistles out of them.

 

well then all they have to do is pick them up on someones left side. i believe the other posters comments on the range keeping them seems more plausible

 

Reminds me of a similar situation in the UK where all guns are banned. Some guy found a .22 cartridge outside a shop. The Police freaked out, investigated and made a big deal over nothing. I forget what the outcome was but it was way overblown by the cops and the media.

This little kid's parents should have screened the daycare before putting their kid in a place that teaches extreme PC. I would not hesitate to pull my kid from any school that is intolerant of what most healthy inquisitive little boys like. The teacher and the school's head guy are asses that are probably bilking the state. I'd yank the kid from the daycare and find another. Might be hard to do in IL but at least the town is not around Chicago.

 

This is what happens when the inmates run the asylum.

I would imagine that political concerns allow the thief/dealer to do what he wants, and the janitor to sham on the job.

These concerns should always be brought up at school board meetings. Any outraged parent/taxpayer needs to address these nuts running the show and humiliate them.

 

Personally, I don't let four year olds decide which rules are "asinine and ridiculous." I'm sure lots of 5 year olds would consider crosswalks and bike helmets "asinine and ridiculous."

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IT doesn't matter whether you or I or the 4 year old consider the rules "asinine and ridiculous" the child disobeyed, was warned and disobeyed again.

Holster your weapon. It is a behavior issue not a gun issue.

 

Then his parents have failed. You should take them to task for the failure to meet their responsibilities.

 

I find school policy on the spent
inert and harmless .22 shell casing to be absurd. I'm sure the four year old just finds it puzzling.

The question is not whether this child violated an idiotic rule or not (like being caught playing tag on school grounds). The issue is the school's knee jerk and over the top response.

 

PUUUUULLLLEEEEEEZZZZEEEE.

Take your "pity" elsewhere. Kids who are undisciplined grow up to be undisciplined adults. Kids, in order to grow healthy, need a structured environment where rules exist and are enforced.

If there's anyone needing pity it is any kid unlucky enough to have you for a mentor.

 

Don't know. Do know he was told, more than once, and he willfully disobeyed the rules.

The "focus" of the disobedience is unimportant. Willful disobedience, left unchecked, will cause a 4 year old to grow into an adult with no respect for the law, for people, or property.

 

If you're going to insist on responding to a post that is not addressed to you may I suggest you...

Try to pay attention.

You'll look a little less foolish.

 

You're right. It is absurd that people who claim to have utmost respect for the "rule of law" would go out of their way to cheer and encourage the bad behavior of a small child while damning the discipline authority of the school administration because they think there's a gun grabber under every bed.

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Well, if you insist on being stupid...

If he had bought an illegal alien to school on multiple occasions after having been warned and counseled the he should be suspended for that.

Now do try to stay on topic.

 

Awww, a personal insult. How sweet. I teach several jr. high students at school, so I always miss the exciting yet immature commentary they provide while on Easter Break. Thanks for the thought, child.

Nevertheless, the point I was making is that it IS odd that alluvasudden we have people who I wouldn't expect to tell us to follow the rules suddenly sticklers for it. It's odd, but whatever. Also, I was trying to say that expecting this kind of reasoning from a four year old, as if they were fourteen year-old is asking too much. Such a reasoning process from admins there is nuts, but then again I never expect any kind of reasoning from admins anymore.

 

Whether you find the schools policy "absurd" or not is not the question.

The child was told on multiple occasions the particular behavior was not permitted. The child refused to obey. The child was properly punished.

We do not allow 4 year old children to make the rules. Not even in NRA land.

 

So you're a teacher. Your class is discussing "Hamlet" and one of your students insist on equating "Hamlet" to "The Munsters" because they both have a character who talks to skulls.

Stupid is not an insult, it is an observation of the intellectual level of the comparison.

Now, if you want to deport people, deport them. Just follow the rules.

Now do try to stay on topic.

 

Not even bothering to read your reply, D. When all you had was invective, no real point to it. I got a quote reply, and that's about as far as it goes. Ta.

 

IMO if this is the type of nonsense associated with Head-start programs the child is better off with out it! Sadly this is our world now, both parents working so they must leave their children abusive creeps like these! The worse part is some grow up to be just as cold and heartless as those monsters that warp their little minds to match their little minds!

 

As I always do, tell the TRUTH. This is just a little boy, and just a .22 shell. Not a big deal. As I tell it on here, I think TRUMP and the republican party are making huge mistakes. At the same time, the over Liberal people are too. I have a feeling that we could all meet in the middle. Yet the overly liberal (PETA) and the OVERLY Conservative (no healthcare for anyone unless they buy it) are the ones leading us away from each other. Forums do too, because it creates hate, just like a situation like this one...
There were places near the ballfields I played at that guys would hunt and target practice, I picked up a MANY .22 shell.... It isn't a bullet, a shell, and to be depicted as if the officer made a mistake, or even the parent is WRONG. They do need to tighten up, so does the school... 7 days, a JOKE and pathetic... People are either strong to one side or another and it is sickening to me, both ways...

 

Spoken like a person never to visit a shooting range Granted center fire cartridges "In my case" have reloadable value but rim fire casing are worthless once fired except for maybe a TRUCK LOAD at the metal recycling place, but you would certainly die of old age before you gathered enough to pay for your flowers!

 

It's certainly part of the issue. Is the school over zealously trying to criminalize a perfectly normal interest in a perfectly
legal matter? Yes. Of course they are.

It's no one's business, certainly not the school's, to try and suppress this child's interest in a perfectly legal
activity In the absence of bringing an actual gun to school, they should butt out or be prepared to show how a single empty twenty-two
cartridge (about half a thimble sized) was a threat or danger to others.

But we do stand by and let four year old children be unfairly punished by zealot educrats? Are children excluded from the Constitution?
And are you an overly officious authoritarian when it comes to other student rights?

 

I'd be perfectly happy with the schools doing this sort of thing if they were equally zealous about suspending or expelling a kid for bringing/selling drugs to school, vandalism, theft, disrespect and defiance, and fighting. Kind of odd how we aren't. But gun shells? Whoa baby, now THAT'S serious!