5 'white' FOX contributors discuss race in America! Not a 'dark hued one among them.

Not slavery, servants, you dont even know the difference. They were all criminals, thats why they were shipped away. Same thing happened with most of britons criminals, sent to australia and america where they were contracted to work. That means a contract, thats want indentured servitude is. Its not the same as cattle slavery.

lesson over.

 

Just calling people you disagree with racists isn't much of an argument.

But I guess lib brainwashing doesn't teach lefties how to think on their feet and defend what they believe,

 

The new racism is very much like KKK revisionist history. Are we suppose to ignore that?

I am fully away the playing field is not even. It takes from no one to even that playing field until it is resolved and when it is resolved those who on one hand list the results of systematic racism to prove minorities are less than something good while simultaneously saying it is time to end reverse-racism aka white woes to avoid leveling the playing field. Love that new found concept that requires action for being the white version running the show. The last two decades have given us some fabulous "irony" moments.

 

Not slaves, but many were servitude servants for years. They and the Chinese got the worst jobs like working in the mines Signs were put up that Irish need not apply which meant not only housing, but jobs. Signs were put on Lawns, dogs and Irish keep off. They were considered among the bottom of the rung as far as being human

 

Is that how you defend blacks in congress who have demonstrated racism by calling me a racist too?

Unless you can adequately answer for them not start on me cause you're just trying to change the subject.

 

Not a single Liberal has an answer for the above post.

 

On the Internet libs can be anything they want to be anytime they want to be.

That's the rules cause they need a little help to keep up with the conservatives.

 

and many for not so long, not much has really changed then has it.

 

FOX can do this, but it looks like poor planning from the production team. If you're a major news outlet, it would seem logical to have people from other races involved in a discussion about race in America rather just a group of people from the same race.

 

You know nothing of Irish history. Most of the Irish who came here were not criminals. They were made servents to get their passage paid over here.

www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~irlros/actof1650.htm‎




Oliver Cromwell tried to steal all of Ireland and he killed or deported Irish citizens who resisted his rule. ... But land owners first had to be evicted from their lands. ... By murdering them, Cromwell could steal their land and at the same time eliminate potential Irish leaders who could raise an army to oppose English tyranny.

The potato famine drove millions out of Ireland too.

 

Hey, don't get your panties all up in a bunch, I didn't call you a racist, I called the culture racist.
Did you grow up in America? Did you hear jokes about minorities that cast them in an unflattering light?
Have you seen them portrayed in an unflattering light in the media?
Do you think that they have just as much opportunity in this culture as a member of another race might have?

What you said was

You referred to races of people, one race is referred to as "not progressing very fast".
The other race has some wisdom that the lower race "might learn something useful" by listening to them.

That's a part of a racist culture, seeing things in terms of race.
I do it myself, because I am a product of a racist culture, Logically, ethically, morally, I think racism is abhorrent, and I try to avoid falling into old thought patterns learned young, and nearly all Americans do it, think in terms of race that is.
And frankly we are doing a much better job in ridding the culture of homophobia than we are with race, but we are improving, and that is something we should celebrate.
Because we are all individuals, and we are much better people when we look at others as individuals.

As Dick Goodwin wrote, and LBJ said

And we have made great strides, but we haven't finished, there is still work to be done, we can still fail in this task...

 

Bob Beckel does a horrible job of staying focused long enough to make a good argument. He'll start out with some decent points, but the 4 others gang up on him imediatly, and he gets rattled. FAR FAR from an effective voice for this administration's talking points

Guilfoyle and Tantaros...any good looks they might have fade from my view when they open their mouths. They're both horrible people, and that has nothing to do with whether or not they're women.

As for you thinking Gutfeld is funny...I don't see it. All he does on Redeye and The Five...is say unfunny sarcastic and mean things, then laugh like it's funny. It's a forced and obvioulsy fake laugh, like the hyenas from The Lion King.

 

You're annoying, and I've lost interest.

Have a nice day.

 

I think they have no less opportunity than they deserve.

There was a time when the Irish and Chinese were not thought highly of either.

But they busted their butts and changed the public opinion of them through excellent performance.

Blacks could too but have not so far.

Shame on blacks for not doing more to help themselves.

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Be sure to leave your white flag at the door on your way out for the next lib to use.

 

My bad, just trying to stress the point. Of course they werent all criminals, iget bogged down by all the racists who post on this subject. Still, they were all contracted to work much like todays sports ppl. In no way shape or form can it be compared to the trans atlantic so- called trade is the point im trying to educate ppl on.

its a shame you couldnt chime in when this was being stated. guess we cant all be selfless and not too vain

 

Clearly we should only let minorities handle matters regarding race.

I mean, they've been pretty good at it so far...

 

No they didn't. But programs were put in place more than 50 years ago to change that. They can no longer be discriminated against in jobs and housing, where they can live, eat and etc. They have advantages that can give them an up over Whites in jobs and higher education now. Blacks have held every high position in government, except V.P. That would never have happened 50 years ago. There have been vast changes in this country towards Blacks.

 

Not only the Irish but the Scots were sold into slavery.

http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/scottish.slaves.htm

 

thats a myth irish americans like to tell their kids. utter fantasy though.

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wrong. they were contracted workers. use a dictionary or read the thread.

 

I do think most that were sent to Australia were criminals. That is what Australia was set up to be, a place to put criminals. I always believed that it held a lot of British criminals, but one Aussie told me it was the Irish and Scotts that were mostly sent there, not British.

 

That both faced hate when they arrived here.

 

hmm, you mean english?

because the irish and scots are british

 

It's only a myth if you don't want to believe it, so you can think only Blacks had it bad, but it's history and you can't change it even if you want to.

No they weren't slaves. They had their passage paid for to get out of, or thrown out of Ireland and they were required to work so many years for that party who paid it, to work off that debt.

 

But they are discriminated against in jobs and housing, even today, a lot of what was wrong was fixed, but the problem is still there, and it needs more work.
And I think that we as a nation are up to the task, and that we will succeed in the long run, but there's still work to do my brother.

 

not really. the irish were treated like kings comparatively