59 yrs ago Today, JFK Assinated

Everyone old enough to remember and know what was happening, remembers what they were doing. I was shopping with my mom and 2 month old baby and everyone started to scream.

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My fears are that there could be another one in our times.....

 

I was in the 4th grade in the middle of class when we noticed some front office people coming around and talking quietly with all the teachers. Then our teacher told us the President had been shot and they put the radio over the PA system. We were let out early to go home. My parents were not big JFK fans but both were really upset as we watched on TV. On the Sunday we went to church that morning. My grandfather was visiting and he had remained at home. When we got home he broke the news to us about Oswalt being killed. Yes that day is one of my earliest retained memories.

 

I can still see the tv news and all the reports on Bobby's killing at the Ambassador Hotel in LA.

Talk about a family wrought with a history of losses.

 

I was in the 8th grade finishing up a gym class and getting ready for the weekend. In those days, I thought medical science to fix anything.

I remember my first grade teacher saying that “It was like Abraham Lincoln.”

 

yep lincoln, kennedy, and jackson, luckily both guns misfired or we could add jackson to the list of martyrs for profit. germany it was hitler.

anyone interferes with banking profits winds up dead. what was it about 10 years ago? to the tune of 49bankers just couldnt take the pressure any more and coincidentally committed suicide. amazing how that works. we have the best democracy money can buy!

 

Kennedy defied the Establishment, that's what got him killed.

He was balking at escalating in Vietnam, and he had already fired Allan Dulles.

Dulles was a very powerful man. He was of much higher rank within the Establishment than Kennedy was.

Kennedy's "secret societies" speech was a shot across their bow, and his turning down of Operation Northwoods was likewise not well received by the Establishment.

The CIA had been running false flag operations in Europe under Operation Gladio for quite some time. I think Kennedy was intent on shutting it all down.

Oswald was nothing more than a patsy, set up to take the fall. It's a shame too, he was a good patriot.

 

~ I was in elementary school. A somber cloud came over the school and everywhere else for many weeks. A few years later MLK , then RFK were shot dead. Unlike today these deaths did not desensitize the public. Each one was horrific. Vietnam was looming in the background with protests and some "defectors " leaving for Canada .
A few years ago I got interested in the JFK assassination. I read several books and watched videos, interviews and opinion debates.
It did a good job answering questions .
I have never seen people excited and hopeful about a politician like when JFK was president. I doubt America will ever see this again in my lifetime — likely not for several generations — if at all.

 

One of the best documentaries is The Men Who Killed Kennedy.

Some effort was put into trying to discredit author and investigator Steve Rubell, who tracked down Lucien Sarte, but I think it's pretty easy for governments and intelligence agencies to fabricate evidence after the fact, after decades, to spin tales any way they want.

One thing I'm certain of is that Oswald didn't shoot Kennedy. He may have shot Officer Tippett after the fact, but that makes sense even if he's innocent in the assassination.

I think Steve Rubell's scenario is probably how it went down. 3 shooters, 2 in buildings behind the motorcade, Sarte on the grassy knoll. 3 guns, 4 shots, 3 hits, 1 miss.

It's the only explanation that fits the evidence.

You have to remember that the 1 miss hit a curb and ricocheted, then grazed a bystander. The only way that could happen is if there was a shooter in the building behind the motorcade (not the school book depository), and much lower than the 6th floor.

 

Best guess is a standard 6 point military style assasination. There was also a bullet in the dash and another one through the windshield.

It was a long walk from the depository to the sewer. I had a theory that there was someone in the sewer, in those days they were big enough you could climb in, they put in new ones and that id no longer possible.

Anyway I laid down to sewer level and you could easily see peoples heads on the passenger side of the car and the cop on the street said he smelled powder.

Witnesses stated the car stopped, you do not see that on the film however.

One of those women said she stepped off the curb to greet them then the shots and car took off.

Anyway its all arguable but that makes sense to me fwiw. Takes a high speed round to open a mans head up like that.

I have always asked the question: why was a banker on the warren commission?

How come the court asked all the wrong questions, hence no one was incriminated nor ever will be.

 

Oswald was a patriot? He was a misfit who didn’t fit in anywhere. He was in the Marine Corp, went to the Soviet Union, became dissolutioned with that and came back here to be perhaps the sole member of the “Fair Play for Cuba Committee.” It’s hard to view someone as “a patriot” who supported Cuba in the wake of the Cuba missile crisis.

 

There is no such thing as a six point military assassination.

There was no bullet in the dash and the hole in the windshield passed through the glass from inside the limo out which means easily from Oswald's weapon.
There was no sewer it was a storm drain simply for allowing water to run off the street and no it was not changed. It was never big enough to sijply crawl into.

The film proves first of all that there was no cop on the street near that drain and second that the limo did not stop,

The witnesses who said it stopped were simply wrong. That is trhe nature of recoding something on film. You need to name the woman and quote here directly

The weapon did in fact fire a high speed round.

The members were picked for their reputation in the eyes of the public. Being a banker does not alter one's integrity

 

Your explanations and scenarios do NOT fit the evidence.

The only explanation which fits the evidence is that Oswald acted alone.

You are quite wrong about the bullet which hit the curb

It was in fact the first shot fired by Oswald and not impossible at all

 

Dulles was director of CIA which is a political office. When fired he did not take his power and authority with him

Oswald was the shooter he was not a Patsy

 

Jack Rubby didn’t do anyone any favors. Oswald’s “pasty” comment combined with his rapid subsequent murder gave the conspiracy theorists ample fuel for their imaginations. The Dallas Police Force shares a lot of blame because they were too incompetent to keep a high profile suspect alive under their watch.

 

All of those activities were carried out as a low level operative for the CIA. Those facts really aren't in dispute anymore.

Even Congress, in the 70's, admitted there was a conspiracy and more than 1 shooter. Once you get to that point and start pulling a thread, the "official" narrative falls apart.

Saw an interesting lecture a few months ago on the subject of the notes taken by the telephone operator who was one of two present for Oswald's phone call. The operator wrote down everything, including the numbers. Oswald tried to call a CIA handler in Kentucky, but there were FBi and CIA agents present, and they told the operator to lie and say the call could not be completed.

Oswald was sheep dipping the communist fliers. One set of fliers even had Guy Bannister's office address stamped on the back.

No, Oswald was clearly a low-level asset for the the CIA.

 

Nixon; guy tried to hijack an airliner to crash into the Whitehouse but was shot by security guard
Gerald Ford; 2 attempts, one by a member of Charlie Manson's "family".
Jimmy Carter; one serious attempt but largely menaced by a rabbit
Ronald Reagan; shot in the lung
GH Bush; Iraqis tried to assassinate him when visiting liberated Kuwait
Clinton; one shooter, one crashed his plane on the Whitehouse lawn
GW Bush; ?
Obama; ?
Trump; some idiot tries to grab a security guard's gun at a rally
Biden?

Actually attempts are getting fewer and fewer?

 

Joseph Stalin was of the opinion that FDR was poisoned - I haven't looked at the specifics, but Stalin was privy to what the Establishment was doing, and why, more often than not.

When FDR's son, Elliott, interviewed Stalin in 1946, Elliott recounted that one of the first things Stalin told him was that "they (the Establishment) had killed his father".

Stalin rose up to be an influential voice within the Establishment. He frequently met with Wall Street power brokers and central bankers from Eurpoe and the U.S. The Rockefeller brothers were frequent visitors to the Kremlin.

 

~ Don't forget the "umbrella man" and the mysterious Babushka Lady ... '"

 

Yes, I read where the people around Stalin killed him with rat poison because he was planning a preemptive nuclear attack. Whom do you believe?

 

~ This is exactly what some predict will happen to Pootin ...

 

For the record, FDR’s doctors predicted that he had less than a year to live in 1944. It may not have been a total secret. The Democrats insisted on removing Henry Wallace from the 1944 ticket despite the fact FDR wanted to keep him.

Wallace was a far left flake who thought that Stalin was a good person. Wallace ran for President on that 1948. Thank goodness the Democrats replaced him with Harry Truman. At least Wallace saw the light before he died.

These people who claim that all famous leader were murdered are fiction writers.

 

I've not seen any testimony or evidence to suggest Stalin died of anything other than a stroke. Everyone hated him, but that isn't evidence.

Likewise, other than his son Elliott recounting what Stalin told him, I haven't seen any evidence to the contrary that FDR died of anything other than natural causes.

Still, I know how the Establishment works - killing people who are in their way is just another Tuesday afternoon.

That said, knocking off a President is a bit more difficult to pull off than throwing James Forestall out a window and saying he committed suicide.

At the end of the day though, the masses will believe what their government tells them to believe - no matter how absurd. Witness Kennedy.

 

Everything in the history books is suspect. Most of it is only good for a general reference - and disproving a lot of it is pretty easy.

All it takes is someone taking the time to dig. Watch The Men Who Killed Kennedy, that is a much better starting point for investigation than The Warren Commission Report.

 

~ Maybe this thread will be the JFK assassination discussion .. ?

 

No it's not.

The men who killed kennedy is a mockumentary with fiction based on speculation.

The Warren Commision is an evidence based comprehensive investigation.