9/11 - The Legal Initiative

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  1. Bob0627

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    I completely understand that nothing will ever cause 9/11 to be officially, legitimately investigated. Because doing so would open a major can of worms that those in power would never agree to. Having said that, the following is an initiative by a newly formed group called the Lawyer's Committee for 9/11 Inquiry:

    We, the undersigned, call upon the Attorney General of the United States to convene a Special Grand Jury to conduct a comprehensive investigation of all aspects of the events of September 11, 2001, to review evidence of criminal conduct, to prosecute anyone for whom probable cause is found, and to allow public interest law firms and other interested parties such as the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry to participate as intervenors in the process of discovery and presentation of evidence.


    9/11 was the most consequential event of our time, with global repercussions almost too far reaching to comprehend. 9/11 has been used as the justification for invasions of countries throughout the Middle East and Afghanistan. These invasions have resulted in catastrophic destabilization of entire regions and cultures including the worst refugee crisis since WWII. [1]


    The 9/11 Commission investigation reluctantly agreed to by the Bush Administration in 2001-2 has been challenged by many independent investigators, and severely criticized by its chairmen, its staff, and the family members who lobbied for it. In the meantime, a vast expansion of governmental powers and war-making activity around the world has relied upon that investigation to catapult us into a “Post-Constitutional Era” of American history.


    (see http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mission-scam-exposed-in-all-its-glory.495859/ and http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-nist-9-11-scam-exposed-in-all-its-glory.458597/ )

    Although fifteen years have passed, the whitewash of 9/11 is very much with us today. In ways that look very much like destabilization projects our government has carried out in other nations like Vietnam, Nicaragua, and Iraq[2], the press and other civil institutions appear to have been subtly corrupted into remaining silent in the face of obvious questions. Professional associations have stifled discussion of basic questions about the collapse of the World Trade Center raised by distinguished members. Academic journals rejected articles and threatened dissenters[3]. Building codes were left unrevised after three high-rise steel structures collapsed, for the first time in history, all on the same day—one without having been hit by a plane. Military officials responsible for protecting the nation against terrorist hijackings were promoted, not disciplined for their failures.[4] Prior and subsequent intelligence links to Al Qaeda went unpublicized[5].


    9/11 was a milestone in the history of governmental fake news and fake science.


    The public was indoctrinated to shun skeptics of the official narrative; news commentators who repeated false intelligence about 9/11, WMD in Iraq and Al Qaida/Saddam links have retained their pre-eminence. When political currents brought the opposition into power, allegations of torture, war crimes, and illegal surveillance by the outgoing administration, done in the name of the War on Terror and 9/11, went uninvestigated or unprosecuted. With public outcry muted by the media, the government has proceeded to spend $2 trillion[6] to avenge the presumed acts of nineteen terrorists; and the American death toll resulting from 9/11 increased by 4,488 in Iraq and 2,350 in Afghanistan (52,318 wounded).[7]


    The suppression of questions about the official version of 9/11 has deepened mistrust and contributed to today’s political instability. A cleansing investigation of possible wrongdoing, going far beyond where the 9/11 Commission was allowed to go, is more necessary than ever if America is ever to regain not only its moral compass and self-respect, but also its institutional capacity for democratic governance.

    The Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry is a newly –formed tax-exempt nonprofit public interest law firm, currently raising funds to support a program of investigation, litigation and advocacy for an independent investigation of 9/11. It seeks to bring before judicial scrutiny the best scientific evidence regarding 9/11, its origins, and its effects, most if not all of which has never been examined by a court, largely because of waivers of rights signed by families who received indemnity payments from the government. It co-sponsored the 2016 “Justice In Focus” Symposium in New York City, at which a panel of distinguished attorneys led by noted public interest litigator Daniel Sheehan heard testimony from architects, engineers, and first responders on matters contradicting the official version of 9/11. Please take time to listen to the presentations at www.justiceinfocus.org The Committee has developed a number of legal strategies in pursuit of 9/11 accountability, which it will implement as resources are developed to do so.


    The Committee’s Director of Litigation wrote a legal brief which was distributed to key Congressional representatives and helped them obtain the release of the much-discussed 28 Pages of a redacted 9/11 report. More recently, it has won an unprecedented ruling by a federal judge that may permit limited discovery—the taking of depositions by certain federal officials who have withheld documents from Freedom of Information Act release. Such depositions may generate important new evidence to submit to a Grand Jury.


    The Justice in Focus panels provided convincing evidence to challenge the official version that planes alone, without pre-placed explosives, destroyed World Trade Center Towers 1, 2, and 7. The Lawyers’ Committee intends to bring such civil actions if the government’s response to this petition is unsatisfactory. The Committee intends to continue cooperating closely with other respected 9/11 advocacy organizations, such as Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth and the 9/11 Truth Action Project.


    The veil of secrecy that has been placed over the events of 9/11 cannot be justified in a free society. If we allow it to remain in place, and succumb to the blandishments of those who would take our freedom in the name of protecting us, we may soon end up neither safe nor free.


    https://www.change.org/p/attorney-general-of-the-u-s-support-legal-action-on-9-11-at-last
     
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    Good news Bob, thanks for posting.

    I wish them all the best, but beware Great Expectations.
     
    Grau and 9/11 was an inside job like this.
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    I hope it is.

    I have none, see my first sentence. Having said that, every action such as this one helps expose the OCT as a massive fraud.
     
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    I am bumping this thread because Dr. Hulsey's findings is current scientific evidence that fully supports this cause. To be sure, it is incomplete until his paper is published for open peer review, corrected or amended if need be, then endorsed by the scientific community and published in its final state. It then becomes settled scientific fact unless and until proven otherwise by someone else and in agreement by the scientific community following yet another peer review process.
     
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    whats the latest news on this,anything?
     
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    I haven't heard anything and I suspect this will go nowhere as with everything about 9/11.
     
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    Knowing the truth is a goal of its own. It may not be pleasant and seldom is, but at least you know it.
     
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    Lol truthers still exist I forgot about you guys for awhile. I can understand that after investing 16 years of energy in this you can't accept that it was not a conspiracy.

    Imagine if you had this kind of drive and passion for solving world hunger. Instead just waste time on some conspiracy that has made billions of dollars in youtube and ad revenue. Get a clue people make LOTS AND LOTS of money perpetuating this kind of stuff.
     
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    You just admitted YOU can't accept that 9/11 was indeed a conspiracy. Even if you bought the official conspiracy theory as 100% true, the 9/11 Commission Report describes a massive conspiracy. Look up the word if you don't know what it means.

    What about the $trillions that were wasted by the military industrial complex on perpetual war that has massacred hundreds of thousands of innocent people under pretext of 9/11? That is apparently not a problem for you since you failed to mention it, is it?

    Yes you should before posting ignorant nonsense.

    Do you actually have something to post that has something to do with the topic of this thread or are you just trolling?
     
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    There is no crushing proof.
     
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    With all the leaks and privacy breaches you think the "incompetent" U.S. government pulled off the most elaborate perfectly executed heist in history and was able to keep it completely under wrap? Breaking a story about a conspiracy would be a pulitzer and fame for life. Let it go.
     
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    Why? Are you that terrified of the truth? Most of those of us who know the US government LIED about 9/11 are not cowards and have no intention of remaining silent. We don't bend over and accept whatever nonsense the US government told us about 9/11 as fact. We also want to know what's in those thousands of 9/11 documents they're keeping from us under pretext of "national security" and have no intention of accepting their "national security" excuses. We are not ignorant and are fully aware of propaganda techniques that have been practiced by governments throughout history.

    “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” - Joseph Goebbels

    No we will not ever let it go. And I will expose those lies as often and as long as I can.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...mission-scam-exposed-in-all-its-glory.495859/

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-nist-9-11-scam-exposed-in-all-its-glory.458597/
     
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    Correct. For a person in denial there is no proof at all.

    However for a person in denial, one being honest with himself, there is no proof at all to support the official tale.
     
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    Lawyers and Victims’ Families File Petition for Federal Grand Jury Investigation

    Yesterday morning, attorneys from the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry, together with more than a dozen family members of 9/11 victims, filed a petition with the interim U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Geoffrey S. Berman, demanding that he present evidence of unprosecuted federal crimes at the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, to a special grand jury.

    According to the 52-page petition, which is accompanied by 57 exhibits, federal statute requires the U.S. Department of Justice to relay citizen reports of federal crimes to a special grand jury. The unprosecuted crime alleged to have taken place on 9/11 is the bombing of a place of public use or a government facility — as prohibited under the federal bombing statute or 18 U.S.C. § 2332f — as well as a conspiracy to commit, or the aiding and abetting of, said offense.


    The petition states, “The Lawyers’ Committee has reviewed the relevant available evidence . . . and has reached a consensus that there is not just substantial or persuasive evidence of yet-to-be-prosecuted crimes related to the use of pre-planted explosives and/or incendiaries . . . on 9/11, but there is actually conclusive evidence that such federal crimes were committed.”


    A federal grand jury has broad powers to investigate the alleged crimes and to return an indictment for signature and prosecution by the U.S. Attorney. The petition notes, “If any crime ever warranted a full special grand jury inquiry, the mass murder of thousands on our nation’s soil on 9/11 clearly does.”


    Skipping ...

    On the 15th anniversary of 9/11, AE911Truth and the Lawyers’ Committee held a two-day symposium called Justice In Focus at New York City’s Cooper Union. There, several expert witnesses affiliated with AE911Truth testified before a distinguished panel of attorneys representing the Lawyers’ Committee, including the late Ferdinando Imposimato, Honorary President of the Supreme Court of Italy.


    Today, that testimony makes up a significant portion of the 52-page petition and 57 exhibits filed with the U.S. Attorney. Videos of the Justice In Focus symposium can be viewed in AE911Truth’s video gallery. The above-mentioned expert testimony is in the video titled “Sunday Morning Events” as well as in the videos of Dr. Leroy Hulsey and Dr. Graeme MacQueen.


    Read the entire article ....

    https://www.ae911truth.org/news/447...petition-for-federal-grand-jury-investigation

    https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/lc-doj-grand-jury-petition/

    How is the American (in)justice system going to try to dismiss this? Either way this puts 9/11 back in the limelight. They have been trying their best to sweep it under the rug.
     
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    Please note I am studying the 52 page petition and will comment on it once I understand it.
     
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    One point of observation. I am guessing that if I posted this article in the section called Latest US & World News or Current Events, it would immediately be moved to the Conspiracy Theory section of the forum so I didn't bother. Everything about 9/11 has been relegated to "conspiracy theory" regardless that it's FACT or not. US government/MSM indoctrination is alive and well in America. Pathetic!
     
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    So now that I read the 52 page petition, I heartily applaud the Lawyers’ Committee for 9/11 Inquiry for putting together an extremely thorough petition for a grand jury investigation into 9/11. Since this petition is being filed in the Southern District of New York, my fear is that Judge Alvin Hellerstein will be assigned to the case. This judge is notorious for mishandling 9/11 cases.
     
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    what has Hulsey released? ...

    I know ...

    I've tried the Pulitzer angle with the troofers ... they don't get it ... "but, but, check out this youtube video!!!" ...

    breathlessly awaiting your comments Bob ...

    you've been indoctrinated by a fringe cult ...

    Do they mention Hulsey? ...
     
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    What do you care? I only ask because the rest of your post suggest you don't, at all. Do the research, most of it has long been posted, I'm not interested in taking you by the hand since it's obvious you don't give a ****.
     
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    If truthers ever want to be taken seriously, just come up with a competing narrative that accounts for all of the physical evidence we all saw with our own eyes that makes sense and (it would help if it doesn't sound insane).

    Of course whenever prodded, they will have some sort of statement about the Commission Report/Official Story etc... instead of furnishing their own. So they are easily dismissed.

    Why listen to someone who has nothing to say?
     
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    They have. You're just playing dumb* about it.

    This video says it all.

    The New Pearl Harbor ~ full




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    9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.
     
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    In other words, unless people concoct a different conspiracy theory, the official conspiracy theory stands as truth despite that the storytellers admit it's a lie. This thread is about the 9/11 Legal Initiative, not about your personal demons or other theories, please stick to the topic of the thread.

    Agreed, so please keep your posts in relation to this topic. You are free to ignore this thread if you believe there's nothing here for you. Your off topic comments are unwanted and violate the rules of the forum.
     
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