A 25-year-old black man was shot dead in Georgia while jogging, prompting online protests labeling t

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  1. superbadbrutha

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    So the whites that were on the property illegal are burglars as well.


    They should have waited for them to arrive instead of trying to play police.

    That's just it, their suspicion wasn't reasonable and that's why they are in jail.

    It proves this isn't 1930, when you could murder someone black and the police turn a blind eye.

    [Quoye]7. The one where we can glimpse them behind the truck wrestling for the shotgun.[/quote]

    So one man jumps out with a gun, was it just for show.

    So why is it they never confronted all the whites who were entering the house illegally?

    Actually it does.
     
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    Oh, yes, their decision was wrong.
     
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    You mean when they were destroying their own property. Tell us when someone black murdered someone white and wasn't arrested and charged. Guess you will have to use Google since you aren't in America.
     
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    They were clearly threatening him.
     
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    Yes, I read Sgt Koon's book and so should you. The other is Lacquan McDonald.
     
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    With imminent death or bodily harm? No. He was threatened with the police showing up an arresting him.
     
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    Might not have any choice, the burden of proof for murder is extremely high and clearly hasn't been met in this case, he may just have to take what he can get?
     
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    For most normal people, yes. But for some reason this idiot felt like he had to attack someone.
     
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    No one was firing a gun at him until he turned into Captain Ignoramus and attacked.
     
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    So one man jumps out with a gun, was it just for show.



    So why is it they never confronted all the whites who were entering the house illegally?



    Actually it does.[/QUOTE]

    1. Possibly and if the same thing had happened to them I wouldn't have a problem with it
    2. In which case he'd have been long gone.
    3. There suspicion was reasonable, if you called the police under the same circumstances and they refused to stop and question the suspect because the grounds weren't reasonable. They're in jail because the DA has bowed to public opinion in order to avoid black riots.
    4. Course not, those days are long gone because America is not racist country.
    5. Yes, to detain him and protect himself if the man attacked him.
    6. Because they didn't flee when discovered by the home owner?
    7. How does it make their decision wrong exactly?
     
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    It seems the same players that hate the police in other threads think the police should be the only ones involved for this one. The police understand their own limitations and actually recommended McMichael assist specifically regarding the trespassing that Arbery was enaged in, that is significant. Be interesting to see how much the prosecution plays the race card during the trial. I have yet to see a single indicator that race played any role in the actual event, although I have zero doubt that the McMichael's lives have been scanned hoping to find even a politically incorrect statement.
     
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    There was no stalking, you have no evidence the weapons were drawn as in pointed at him, I have a legal right to carry a shotgun and you have no legal right to try and disarm me of it. If I am standing on the street holding a shotgun and I ask you what are you doing on my street I'd like to talk to you you do NOT have a right to try and disarm me and if you do and during that struggle the gun is discharged and I am killed explain why you should not be charge with that homicide?
     
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    He wasn't a jogger on the street he was a fleeing suspect in a crime who have been seen before so stop with that canard. He had also appeared to previously threaten people with a gun. So he was considered an armed suspect. All he had to do was stop and talk, PERIOD. Instead he chose to engage in violence and try to disarm and legally carrying person. Had Travis been killed then Arbery could very well be the person in jail not only on a burglary charge but a murder charge.
     
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    Sorry you can't just attack and try to disarm someone who is merely holding a shotgun. He was in the act of fleeing the scene of a crime and the police.
     
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    What's the evidence they did?
     
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    A reasonable person would fear for their life with gun toting men in pickup trucks chasing someone around a neighborhood and blocking their exit.
     
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    They chased him around the neighborhood with guns. That is a very serious threat.
     
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    Convicted criminal.
     
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    He had been jogging away from the trespass scene, refused to stop and talk to them, and then was running. (All very suspicious, since they suspected he might be the neighborhood burglar)
    Chasing him was reasonable, under those circumstances.

    While it is true they were holding guns, they weren't really doing anything specifically threatening with them.

    Are you going to argue it's a serious threat if a police officer chases somebody, and happens to be carrying a gun?

    I bet you he would have still ran even if they had not been carrying guns.
     
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    While that may be true, a reasonable person would also not try to run at an armed man and try to take his gun away, especially when there are two other armed men with him. What type of person does that??
     
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    That is not what happened. They had a fire arm and threatened him. If he had been armed, he could have legally killed them both.
     
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    While he was pointing the gun at Arbery (at that last moment), I don't blame him. Arbery ran around the corner of the vehicle, suddenly coming into visibility, and then started running at him. It almost looked like from the video Arbery was going to ram him (though it is hard to see).
    McMichael was probably startled when Arbery suddenly appeared around the corner of the vehicle, and surprised that Arbery had suddenly changed direction and was running towards him.
     
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    If you think you’re in danger, which he was, the **** you can’t defend yourself.


    No evidence he was fleeing. You’re making stuff up now.
     
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    They followed him, chased him down and exited the car with weapons drawn. Drawn is not the same as aimed.
    Do you disagree that a weapon shouldn’t be drawn unless you intend to use it?

    In these particular circumstances it sounds perfectly reasonable for the man to be in fear for his life.
     
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    The police had not interacted with him so he could not have been fleeing the police. You just made that up.
     
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