Abortionists killing babes after birth? Infanticide okay?

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  1. Renee

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    God does not create life. You should take my sex education class. And Satan does not destroy life. You make up these supernatural beings and don’t question logic. We all know that it was Zeus and all the gods that created everything
    What does a child dying of starvation because there’s no rain, have to do with free will? What does people drowning in tsunami have to do with free will? Why do people die in earthquakes? Either God is not omnipotent or he is a sadist. You give God all the credit and none of the blame. Do you believe in Santa Claus also?
     
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    Political Pandering - Trump knows his base and needs them for 2020. You can't run on a PL platform, then show up to office and do nothing and expect to keep that base.

    Pence is a goblin of the highest order... a true Wolf in Sheep's clothing.
     
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    Sorry dude- reciting pure crap doesn’t change the reality of life. You’re claiming the devil is more powerful than God’s love for the unborn. An omnipotent God who had a first priority of saving the unborn would not let ANYTHING get in the way of their welfare. End of story.
     
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    "Every Child is a Sacred Gift from God ..... every life is worth protecting"

    .... "Except those good for nothing immigrants - they are human garbage"

    Trump Suggested Shooting Immigrants To Slow Them Down
    https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry...igrants_n_5d93cdd1e4b0e9e760548f73?ri18n=true

    Classic Pro Life Hypocrisy :)
     
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    You just dont have your theology down pat. God allows human's free will - that means we are each individually free to make our own choices.. This is considered Gods permissive will. Read up on that. You are incorrectly calling out God for not interceding - when it was human choice that lead us up to this point.

    Im saying one side protects the unborn baby (God) and the other side butchers them (Satan)
    Remember: God creates AND Satan destroys. Good and evil exist in this world whether you like it or not. And for the record, Abortion is about as vile and evil as any practice known to man.
     
  6. Renee

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    Maybe we should spend more time praying to Satan because he seems to have more power
     
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    Those things have NOTHING to do with Trump....but if you respect a man who has it off with a hooker just after his WIFE has a baby, has 3 wives, and claims women will let you grab them by the crotch...then must not know what "respect' means..
     
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    For the fetus, there is absolutely zero difference between an abortion and a miscarriage.
     
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    Newsflash: Trump is human. I could go on and on about Obama's gay sexual indiscretions but it's ultimately something I've let go of. You liberals bring up dirt from 20 years ago because you are totally desperate. And just FYI, the impeachment hoax is dead on arrival in the senate.

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    The "Trump administration" NOT Trump....NONE were done with him alone.


    Those things have NOTHING to do with Trump....but if you respect a man who has it off with a hooker just after his WIFE has a baby, has 3 wives, and claims women will let you grab them by the crotch...then must not know what "respect' means..
     
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    He is not a fan of Socialism and "more free stuff" so probably not. Did you know mocking peoples religion is very arrogant and does not encourage good discussion?
     
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    Except the foreceps ripping your tiny limbs from your body.
     
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    almost as bad as people demeaning atheists and saying this is a Christian country. Rather than attack the messenger tell me why a benevolent God would allow innocent babies to die of starvation or crushed and earthquakes or tsunami’s when he has the ability to control them. That is not being arrogant about your religion
     
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    Once again you are projecting your issues on to me as per the "Bonehead" comment. It is not my fault that Trump said what he did -it is Trump who you are really calling a bonehead - and you don't even realize it (somewhat priceless !)

    Projection
    is a psychological defense mechanism in which individuals attribute characteristics they find unacceptable in themselves to another person https://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/psychpedia/projection

    "You clearly have a serious problem the term illegal. Another term for illegal is criminal"

    In a previous post you stated that Gods Law was above Man's Law - now all of a sudden you have changed your tune. You care so much about the precious zygote (a single human cell) but when it comes to living breathing humans who need help - you don't give a rat's behind. you want to label those in need of help as criminals and treat them like human garbage - such hypocrisy.

    What exactly is "God's law" with respect to helping the poor ?

    "Because that was what Trump is doing by building the wall. He is protecting our nation. Anyone who disagrees with a strong border policy should seriously question their own patriotism"

    I did not say I was against strong border policy ? but, I am not the one going around claiming "every life is a precious gift from God that should be protected" - then turning around and claiming that people in need are human garbage.

    "You got radical islamic terrorism right on the money, but you can't be truthful relative to the border crisis? These are ILLEGAL immigrants, right?"

    I have not said anything untrue about the border crisis. Why are you so down on the Radical Islamist's - not all of which are terrorists - when you have so much in common with them ?

    The Radical Islamist wants to force religious belief on others through physical violence (Law) - and so do you. Kind of pot calling kettle black is it not ?
     
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    Bahh .. "Socialism" - you should stick to terms of which you know the meaning.

    Trump and the Red Establishment love socialism - even more than Blue.
     
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    Ever wonder why Obama always used to call ISIS as ISIL ?
    What exactly is our legacy from Obama? Transgender bathrooms? Riots? And a 5 billion dollar website?

    Obama divided our nation on race, law enforcement, political persuasion and on many other levels of society. His true intent was to destroy america from the inside.
     
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    You know Hitler was a socialist and socialism is a left wing ideology, right?
     
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    Why should I explain anything about GOD to you? Why dont you ask GOD?
     
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    Sure - but, once again you avoid the central point because your brain can't deal with it - Trump and the Red Establishment love Socialism even more than Blue..
     
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    Do you know this isn't the Religion Forum?
     
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    Except you have NO proof that a fetus feels anything,,,they don't, they can't.
     
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    We do have some moral laws on the books, just so you know.

    Only difference being Sharia law is oppressive and a christian backed society is exactly the opposite. This is proven by the success of the United States as a nation. I want to be clear here I totally agree with the separation of church and state. But this nation was founded by white Christians for ALL. So I give respect to the roots of this nation. There is nothing wrong with being patriotic and celebrating our nations heritage, but the left likes to incorrectly conflate patriotism with racism nearly 99% percent of the time

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    I dont see Christians throwing gays from the tops of buildings. i dont see Christians putting people in cages and drowning them. I dont see Christians executing innocent people on video. I dont see Christians raping the innocent and vulnerable.

    Sharia law = from satan
    Christian influenced nation= from God

    At least you have one ideological point correct, which is that you get Radical Islamic Terrorism. Pregnancy is required for the preservation of the species. You almost act as if pregnancy is not a natural biological process? And anyone who is pro life shares the same ideology as ISIS?

    Like white men are imposing their will! I demand you GET PREGNANT AND STAY PREGNANT! LOL
     
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    Rot. Nazism is a right-wing political movement.
     
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    Abortion is not compassionate care as Planned Parenthood would want you to believe. Im sure millions of those babies that were killed experienced pain during the actual act of abortion (abortion can be a very violent procedure)
    It's sick to kill unborn children.

    If you are talking about fascism that is also born out of left wing ideology... Mussolini was a socialist as well.

    So Hitler had an economy that was privatized? Is that what you are telling me?

    There is no such thing as a right wing socialist. Of if there are, they are very confused individuals.
     
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    What does the above have to do with Abortion ? If you believe in separation of Church and State you should not be arguing for a ban on Abortion on the basis of religious belief.

    Today we don't see Christian nations doing this - but this is what they did for over 1000 years - aka the 1000 years of Christian Horror.

    The founders put a muzzle on such practices with separation of Church and State - that was the purpose of the DOI.

    Extremist Fundamentalist Christians would like to return to the "good ol days" - as per this "Kill the Gays" conference.



    Sharia Law comes from the God of the Christians - did you not know this ? Killing gays, stoning adulterers, death for apostasy, and so on. You need to read the OT.

    The ideology of the Islamist is - at its root- the exact same as the your ideology with respect to Abortion - Forcing religious belief on others through law.

    Your other comments are ridiculous and/or meaningless in context of the conversation. What part of - the world is overpopulated - did you not understand the first time ?

    That's exactly what banning abortion does (sans the getting pregnant part) ... where on earth did you come up with the "get pregnant" part ?
     
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