Please stop posting the same maps and meaningless paper that do nothing to refute the fact that there were only 4.5 million under German control at the height of the 3rd Reich. Why are you so desperate to inflate already terrifying numbers and, again, why are you only concerned about Jewish lives when so many suffered to such an enormous degree all around the world? Do you believe the Talmudic precepts that Jewish lives are more valuable than non Jewish lives? "The Wannsee Conference: Another Lie Crushed" http://barnesreview.org/the-wannsee-conference-another-lie-crushed/ EXCERPT– The Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control (yet 4.3 million Jewish compensation claims have been lodged against the postwar German government)CONTINUED "CHAPTER 2: THE NUMBER OF JEWS UNDER NAZI CONTROL" http://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/2018/01/chapter-2-number-of-jews-under-nazi.html EXCERPT Section 9: There Were 4.5 Million Jews under Direct Nazi Control CONTINUED I'll gladly stop posting these supporting documents if you'll stop trying to inflate the number of Jews under German control. My overall question is why is it so important to you for more Jews to have died? Weren't enough killed already?
at its height, 9.2 million Jews were under the control of the Nazis and their Fascist allies. nothing can change this historical truth
Here's a 3rd source that supports what I've asserted: "Tall Tales From The German Woods: The Myth Of The Wannsee Conference" https://www.amazon.com/Tall-Tales-German-Woods-Conference/dp/1447673476 EXCERPT "In addition, the Wannsee Minutes reported that there were only 4.5 million Jews under German control …"CONTINUED You have been entirely unable to come up with just one source that supports your assertion.
after the Wannsee Conference, the Nazis took control of Belarus, Ukraine, Lithuania, eastern Poland. meanwhile their Fascist allies controlled Romania, Slovakia, Hungary, Vichy France, Serbia, Croatia, Italy. bringing the number of Jews under Nazi or Nazi-ally control to 9.2 million.
Nonsense, you're just evading the questions A undated list of numbers claiming to be Jewish individuals is meaningless. Where does it even say these are Jews and, why are you, again, only concerned with Jewish lives? Your history is failing, the Wannsee Conference was in 1942 after the Nazis took control of Belarus, much of the Ukraine, Lithuania, eastern Poland. As I've already explained, conquering a country does not mean that one controls all its people or all of its territory. For example, the US occupied S. Vietnam but had little control over all of its territory or all of its people.
you MUST be joking. that is the Wannsee Conference's list of the Jews of Europe. Part A is the Jews under direct Nazi control as of January 1941. Part B is Jews in Nazi-Allied nations, Jews in neutral nations, or Jews in nations at war with Germany. Part A.......equals 4.5 million Jews. That's where your figure comes from. Part B, minus Britain, Ireland, Spain, Poertugal, Sweden, Norway, Switzerland and Turkey, equals 4.7 million Jews. bringing the total number of Jews under Nazi or Nazi-ally control at 9.2 million.
oh so the Nazis didn't really control Germany, Austria, Bohemia, Moravia, northern France and western Poland??? LOL!!!! oh, you guys.
no ****, and here is the actual transcript from the Wannsee Conference detailing the Jews of Europe: 4.5 million Jews under Nazi control before Barbarossa. 4.7 million Jews under the control of Nazi allies or areas conquered by the Nazis during Barbarossa (minus the Jews of Britain, Ireland, Spain, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, Finland, Portugal, Turkey. pardon????? that's the ****ing document from the Wannsee Conference, which YOU just cited!!!
dont forget, Eichmann was just a lowly Colonel. Never had anything much to do with the deportation of Jews to "Der Ost".
You have repeatedly claimed that the reason no German homicidal gas chambers exist today is because the retreating Germans destroyed them all along with any blueprints, orders etc. However, the author of Post # 445 posts both drawings and pictures of empty morgues, bomb shelters etc and claims that they are homicidal gas chambers. Some of these old morgues etc have been recently labeled as "gas chambers" to deceive visitors. So, are those photos really "gas chambers" or were they all destroyed as you have claimed?
Some were reconstructed, and others like Dachau were not put into service. As for the Rienhardt camps, yes, they were all destroyed as were the gas chambers in Auschwitz/Birkenau. But then again I get how you believe the nazi's were too stupid and arrogant to cover up any evidence of their crimes and therefore its all a hoax. You and Trump seem to think they can convince everyone else that the uncomfortable truth is actually all a dastardly conspiracy, but simply repeating the same tired bullshit over and over. But then again, denialism does appeal to the lower end of the intellectual scale, so its not surprising they obsess over repetition. many appear to have OCD. Hogan's heroes was more historically accurate than the bullshit holocaust deniers like to shovel. YOu should watch it, I'm sure it would be enlightening..
we have the Auschwitz blueprints. on them we see a large room listed as "gas chamber" https://www.pbs.org/auschwitz/maps/# https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...z-camp-found-in-germany-idUSTRE4A71SC20081109
In other words, you're claiming that what is represented at Auschwitz as a homicidal gas chamber is really phony, the tour guides are lying and the signs are fraudulent.
Your discovery is of " plans believed used..." and the idea that someone was just cleaning up one day and found the plans for Auschwitz is hardly credible & very little different than the discovery of the infamous "Hitler Diary". From your own REUTERS source: EXCERPT " One has an 11.66 meter by 11.20 meter room marked “Gaskammer” (gas chamber) that was part of a “delousing facility.” CONTINUED We already know about the extensive delousing facility that was used to save lives. Still no homicidal gas chambers.
why would the Nazis, who hated Jews with a satanic passion, ship Jews almost 1,000 miles from Holland, France, Belgium, Greece, and elsewhere.....just to delouse them? make zero sense bro. try again.
Firstly, not all Germans were Nazis who hated the many Jews with whom they had been living for centuries & formed close bonds. Strange as it may seem, Hitler even befriended a young Jewish girl who shared his own birthday just as they wrote exchanged presents for years(1). I hope you will agree that many Germans worked to save Jews from Nazi persecution so while most Nazis expressed hatred for Jews, most Germans did not. For example only 5% - 10% of the German population were members of the Nazi party including some Jews & mixed Jews who were Nazis (2). Additionally, 150,000 Jews & mixed Jews served in Germany's WW 2 military (3) as police, soldiers, kapos etc with many rising to the highest ranks and receiving Germany's highest honors with Hitler's full knowledge & approval. Additionally, the Nazis and the German Zionist federation worked closely together to craft Germany's race laws because Germany's Zionists were just as eager to preserve Jewish "racial purity" as the Nazis. Together they also formed the Haavara Agreement in 1933 as an attempt to build a Jewish/Zionist Colony in Palestine. The transfer of Jews & their property to Palestine stopped in 1940 -41 due to both British immigration restrictions in Palestine & the outbreak of WW 2. So, with all of these co operative agreements & inclusions of Jews in the machinery of the 3rd Reich, the "satanic" hatred could not have been as deep as you suggest in spite of the hateful rhetoric espoused by most members of the Nazi party. Now, in respect to Auschwitz, Auschwitz was a large scale industrial complex in which synthetic rubber was manufactured and petrol was extracted from coal among other industries like making uniforms, small arms etc. The purpose of delousing inmates was to prevent the spread of deadly typhus in an attempt to maintain healthy workers. The same process (showers, delousing etc) was used on Ellis Island to prevent the spread of disease coming into the US. Yes, many people were executed at Auschwitz but according to Holocaust historian, Arno Mayer, more people died of "natural causes" (disease etc) than by execution. Because Germany was so vastly outnumbered, a healthy & productive work force was essential to maintaining production of essential material & supplies needed to fight a 3 front war. A healthy, skilled & productive worker was just as important as a healthy, skilled & productive soldier so why execute them all? Briefly put, Germany had neither the time, resources nor manpower to exterminate, cremate, pulverize bones & teeth & hide the remains of millions of people while having its other industries bombed & fighting against vastly superior numbers. (1) ‘The Führer’s child’: How Hitler came to embrace a girl with Jewish roots https://www.washingtonpost.com/hist...irl-with-jewish-roots/?utm_term=.c018e31aef0f EXCERPT "The little girl was portrayed as Adolf Hitler’s favorite. They shared the same birthday, April 20. She called him Uncle Hitler and was known as “the Führer’s child.” At a time when the Nazi leader was being presented to the world as a kindly figure, his personal photographer frequently snapped pictures of the two them holding hands, exchanging kisses on the cheek or just smiling at each other. Hitler refused to cut off contact with the girl even after he was told she had a Jewish grandmother."CONTINUED (2) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of Jewish descent."CONTINUED (3)“Hitler’s Jewish Army” http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/ EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval. In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross. Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos). So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED
It doesn't matter when or where these alleged plans appeared, all they show is the existence of delousing facilities, not homicidal gas chambers as you falsely claimed. What's with the puerile & snarky "gotcha", "try again" stuff? Can't we just have a mature & civil exchange about one of the many tragedies that have plagued mankind?
Accusing I and others of caring more about Jewish lives than any other human beings, is neither mature nor civil. Calling the Jewish State "parasites" and Zionists in the USA an "infestation", is neither civil nor mature.
Apparently, your answer to my question: "Can't we just have a mature & civil exchange about one of the many tragedies that have plagued mankind?" is "No". Meanwhile, you're mischaracterizing sentiments I expressed on an entirely different thread and the fact that you have expressed a greater interest in Jewish victims than other victims of WW 2 is a matter of record. Meanwhile, back on topic, why did you attempt to pass off a delousing facility as a homicidal gas chamber: From your own REUTERS source: EXCERPT " One has an 11.66 meter by 11.20 meter room marked “Gaskammer” (gas chamber) that was part of a “delousing facility.” CONTINUED Do you believe the fiction of another Poster that all the homicidal chambers were destroyed or do you believe the dreary rooms shown as homicidal gas chambers are accurately labeled?
