AI: Up to 13000 Hanged by Assad in Saydnaya Prison

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  1. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    So we should orchestrate the going of every leader that suits us?
    Our insigation of tensions in the Ukraine was justified?
     
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    Amnestry International is a joke. They lost all credibility in the Balkans when they allowed themselves to be politicised and blatantly lied about alleged Albanian victims, which proved to be a propaganda lie. So why would anyone take their politicised reports seriously? They've already been caught in serious lies.
    Not to mention their shameless lies about Libya.

    By the way, this fake news is just a diversion from the real news. A real andongoing genocide in Yemen. Famine in 21 century. Unheard of. Kids dying every 5 minutes from preventable disesease such as diarrhea etc...

    Saudis are committing genocide on a wide scale and the USA/UK are assisting. That;s the real new. Irrefutable, based on facts.

    U.N. needs $2.1 billion to avert famine in Yemen
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-un-idUSKBN15N14Q

    The United Nations said on Wednesday that 12 million people in Yemen faced the threat of famine brought on by two years of civil war and the situation was rapidly deteriorating.

    It appealed for $2.1 billion to provide food and other life-saving aid, saying that Yemen's economy and institutions are collapsing and its infrastructure has been devastated.

    "If there is no immediate action, and despite the ongoing humanitarian efforts, famine is now a real possibility for 2017. Malnutrition is rife and rising at an alarming rate," U.N. emergency relief coordinator Stephen O'Brien told a news briefing.

    "A staggering 7.3 million people do not know where their next meal is coming from," he said.

    Yemen has been divided by nearly two years of civil war that pits the Iran-allied Houthi group against a Western-backed Sunni Arab coalition led by Saudi Arabia that is carrying out air strikes. At least 10,000 people have been killed in the fighting.

    Nearly 3.3 million people - including 2.1 million children - are acutely malnourished, U.N. figures show. They include 460,000 children under age five with the worst form of malnutrition who risk dying of pneumonia or diarrhoeal disease...
     
  3. squidward

    squidward Well-Known Member

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    While millions suffer, die and get displaced.
    Never met a Muslim they didn't want to kill(without a sizeable checkbook)
     
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    You might want to look up how much money KSA and the GCC have poured into food aid for Yemen since 2014.
     
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    When they admit that their allegations are Unsubstantiated,
    they admit to the BOGUS nature of those allegations
    They are admitting to the FACT that their allegations are totally
    without merit and would not stand the scrutiny of a court of Law - Thereby - BOGUS - FAKE - FALSE

    From the Article:
    "Amnesty International admits it has no physical evidence whatsoever
    to substantiate what are admittedly only the testimony of alleged inmates
    and former workers at the prison, as well as figures within Syria’s opposition."

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  6. Robert

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    Michael Isikoff got an interview and Assad denies the charges.

    He admits to lawful executions for crimes. They don't mess with convicts as the USA does.

    The USA at one time had swift justice as well.
     
  7. Margot2

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    Assad played dumb in the Dec 2011 interview as well..

    Why do you suppose Syria was under martial law for 48 years.. from 1963 thru 2013?

    The state had extreme power to detain and imprison without due process.
     
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    Georgy's sure a PIG ain't he - We agree on something again ! :clapping:

    People
    People like those at " Amnesty International " mayhap ?
    People like those who use AI to defend their Disinformation ?
    People like YOU - right AE :) no wonder I've always had a Problem with your credibility :smile:

    These guys ain't progressives they are a BOGUS organization - Astroturf
    A PHONEY BOGUS Organization made to look Grassroots but in reality
    they are created to further Corporate and/or Government agenda

    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Astroturf
     
  9. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yep. He stands against their ideology, hence he is a monster to them. Then Jenny has the gall to talk about "monsters of the day" :lol:
     
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    But the fact is that George Soros is a dangerous megalomaniac who thinks he has the right to interfere in any country's internal affairs. Many of his actions are simply against the law and criminal as such. He should be hold accountable for trying to undermine the president of the USA. Surely there must be some laws.

    This is interesting. In case of war if deserters refuse to fight for the government, they are usually executed. U.S laws on desertion are clear.

    10 U.S. Code § 885 - Art. 85. Desertion

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/885

    (a) Any member of the armed forces who—

    c) Any person found guilty of desertion or attempt to desert shall be punished, if the offense is committed in time of war, by death or such other punishment as a court-martial may direct, but if the desertion or attempt to desert occurs at any other time, by such punishment, other than death, as a court-martial may direct.
     
  11. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I got that from the Assad interview too. He never denied they execute. And he said they follow Syrian law.

    Assad's father once was the ruler.
     
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    It was Asians before that - or really as well as that. George Orwell wrote the line "We've always been at war with Eastasia" in 1948 and it started before that.

    You'd think it would be more profitable all round to let most of the world stabilise, industrialise, technologise and become capitalist contributors, wouldn't you? But no. Apparently, this way is the most profitable. The pie gets more and more ginormous and you don’t have to share it, even though you'll never be able to eat it all yourself in a 100 years. Shame about the collateral damage. It’s psychopathic!
     
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    LOLOL.. 48 years under martial law?
     
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    And Syrian Christians lived in peace. Go figure.
    I figure Arabs just cannot handle the Blessings of Democracy.
    Baathist, both Assads don't care what you are. Just don't be political.
    And Baathist held their nations together with a stable economy, infrastructure, etc.
    Post Baathist looks like Post WW2 Europe without a Marshal Plan.
    Tell me it ain't so.
     
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    How was Obama doing nothing? His favorite thing to do in Syria is drone women and children to death
     
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    The criminals here are those who are trying to overthrow another secular nation, as we did in Libya and Iraq. So it can be another safe haven for radicals.

    Assad should hang those who committed treason. He has every right to keep Syria intact. The only way to get rid of radicals is to send them to join their ancestors. He has not been able to kill enough of them yet. For we interposed ourselves to inhibit him, as we armed radicals. Who is financing this fight to take over Syria? Those people should be hung.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your article is bull(*)(*)(*)(*), Eadora.

    Amnesty never admitted or otherwise stated that "it has no physical evidence whatsoever to substantiate what are admittedly only the testimony of alleged inmates and former workers at the prison, as well as figures within Syria’s opposition."

    Your joked-assed source just made it up. :lol:

    I hate to break the news to you and the rest of The Top Goon's fanboys, but this report fits right in with others that have documented the torture and execution of detainees in Syrian prisons.
     
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    USA didn´t orchestrate nothing In "Syria", USA under Obama tried to save a lot of lives there, proved "Syrians" with functional solution , unfortunately others dont care about lives of "Syrians", Gulf states, Turkey, Iran, Muscovy, all play own game, meanwhile "Syrians" specially sunni - arabs pay tremendous price

    when it comes to Ukraine , USA follows the UN Resolution 68/262
     
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    if somebody wants to know what is going in this Syrian prison , one just needs to buy this book, 99% of Assadists got educated in sovok (kgb, MA, etc.) so they know the koba-sralin´s drill
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    BS, all top- position are in the hands of alawites

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    do you have any number?
     
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    Muslim Assad is just following Mohammad's lead - Mohammad had captives, yes, captives, 600+ of them, killed at Banu Qurayza. So do people condemn Assad's inspiration (Mohammad) for Assad's barbarity? You can't condemn Assad w/out also condemning his #1 role model/inspiration/founder of his religion, of course.
     
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    Good find.
    Yes, those who approve of torture are barbarians, such as Assad, Genghis Khan, Jesus (torture, forever, for Muslims, Buddhists, etc., no matter how ethical they might have been), Hitler, Trump, Stalin, etc.

    Fortunately Modern Secular Humanism is an island of compassion in a sea of barbarity.
     
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    Obama failed miserably in Afghanistan, as a top general recently admitted that we've fought to a "stalemate" in Afghanistan. A whopping sixteen years after 9/11, many lives lost, untold amounts of your tax dollars wasted, and we can't even defeat a bunch of stone-age morons who are so insane that they believe in magic invisible people who might live in your nose (the Qur'an calls them "jinns".)


    [To be fair, I must say that Christians are equally as delusional as they ALSO believe in magic invisible people - and those are even harder to believe as those magical creatures have wings on....."angels". The world is delusional. ]
     
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    Islamic law ALLOWS to crucify (Q5:33), and to chop off hands, and to chop off feet, and to torture, and to behead. They are emulating Mohammad - they seem to think that the 7th century is better than the 21st century.
     
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    Most Syrian Christians Aren’t Backing Assad (or the Rebels) 20 December 2016 -
    Christians are often portrayed as supportive of the Syrian regime. There are two main reasons for this: most Christian areas haven’t witnessed demonstrations against the regime and many church leaders have declared their support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The regime and some Islamic groups have encouraged this perception – it serves their aims to frame the struggle in Syria as sectarian.

    However, a closer look at the Christian landscape shows a different picture.

    I’ve spent the last year interviewing Syrian Christians, both religious and lay, from different Syrian cities: Damascus, Aleppo, Homs and Al-Qamishli. Some of them are still based in Syria, while others have left the country.

    There are certainly Christians who support the regime, including senior religious figures, state officials and business people whose interests are invested in it. There are also Christians who have supported the revolution from day one.

    Political actors

    Five years ago in Damascus, a group of Christians began meeting to discuss how Christians could support the revolution. They rejected the church leadership’s supportive stance toward the Assad regime and drafted a letter emphasizing the values of freedom and dignity for all Syrians, which they delivered to the leaders.

    Christian activists have worked to raise awareness among fellow Christians about the revolution and its goals. Among one such group was Bassel Shehadeh, a young film director who went to Homs to document the revolution through video; he was killed in May 2012 as the regime bombed the city. In cities such as Homs, Aleppo and Al-Qamishli, Christian activists have taken part in demonstrations and sit-ins. Many have been arrested, some of them several times.

    With the militarization of the revolution, many of these Christians moved toward humanitarian work. Their Christian family names make it easier for them to pass through regime checkpoints to deliver aid to areas under siege.

    The Syrian opposition today, including the Free Syrian Army, includes several Christian figures, among them George Sabra, chief negotiator for the High Negotiations Committee, and Abdelahad Steifo, vice president of the National Coalition of Syrian Revolution and Opposition Forces.

    Apolitical actors

    Yet both of these groups – those who support the regime or the revolution – are a minority among Christians. The majority are neither with the regime nor with the opposition. They look sceptically toward the revolution, particularly after its Islamization – but neither do they support the regime.

    One senior religious leader told me how Christians in his area are willing to take up arms to defend their neighbourhoods against attack from armed Islamic groups – but this doesn’t translate into support for the regime. They refuse to serve with the military; they’re unwilling to fight for this regime. Many believe the regime cares little for their safety.

    In April 2013, one week before he was kidnapped, Bishop Yohanna Ibrahim, head of the Syriac Orthodox Church in Aleppo, blamed the Syrian regime for failing to deal with the ongoing crisis.

    Some Christians who used to support the regime now register their discontent with the poor public services provided by the state and accuse the regime of neglecting Christian areas. A few months ago, another Syrian bishop warned the regime not to test the patience of the Christians in his area because of the deterioration of public services.

    Unlike those who support the regime or the revolution, this group has no definite political position in the current struggle. They simply care for their safety and the provision of services.

    Shaped by circumstance

    Their attitudes toward both regime and opposition are often influenced by two factors. First, the degree of segregation between Muslims and Christians. In areas with a clear segregation between the two communities, as is the case in certain neighbourhoods of Homs and Aleppo, the Christians are closer to the side of the regime. In these areas, it is easier for the regime to push its propaganda labelling the revolutionaries as Sunni terrorists out to massacre minorities. In mixed neighbourhoods however, it is more difficult for Christians to believe their neighbours are terrorists, and they are more likely to understand the reasons of those who chose to revolt.

    Second, the threat of Islamic militias also shapes Christians’ views. Syrian Islamic factions have failed to address the fears of Christians; on the contrary, in many cases they have used violence against religious minorities. Where Islamic groups present a real threat, Christians are likely to lean toward the regime. The less of a threat they represent, the more Christians are likely to take a neutral or critical position on the regime.

    As with so many other things in Syria, this is a grey area. Christians in Syria are politically divided, just like other religious communities in the country, and they cannot be treated as one homogenous group. Moreover, their political position cannot be defined as being for or against the regime – their political attitude is shaped by their interests in safety and public services and is influenced by their environment, particularly the degree of religious segregation and the presence (or lack thereof) of an Islamist threat.
    - See more at: https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert...-backing-assad-or-rebels#sthash.KJrNP1XB.dpuf
     
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    Blame their #1 role model - a guy who didn't understand democracy, but rather was a warlord who even said in Q8:41 to give a certain percentage of the booty they plunder to him (yes, to HIM.)
     

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