Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: ‘I Will Never Apologize’ for ‘Concentration Camp’

at a time when we needed a massive influx of unskilled workers the US was rabidly expanding the vast west was being settled the railroads while being built
we needed the workers
now we don't not unskilled and those that are crossing the border illegally or asking for asylum aren't skilled lucky if they can read and write
they will be taking more from society then they will be giving back

 

But when you vote republican you don’t get that. So I guess it is just vote for what part of government you want bigger. The police state or the helping lives state.

 

Pioneers need skills more than the pampered scions of civilization, the major one being that they have to learn fast for the frontier is both demanding and unforgiving and no one knows just what abilities are needed. Going by the logic exhibited here most of our ancestors would never have been allowed in this country.

The famous words below the Great Lady say "Give me your tired, your poor..." they don't say "Give me your engineers and your wealthy"... and there is solid, practical reason for that. People who have achieved and are comfortable where they are will usually not uproot themselves and come several thousand miles to make new lives. People who have never had a chance until now will welcome it and work hard to show themselves worthy and to become successful in their own right. Our entire history proves that beyond dispute.

 

But why are they leaders? Why can they do so much harm when the masses know better? We are stronger together but we let social issues define the red line. You don’t want what I want therefore wait your turn. Problems all can be solved its just there needs to be an understanding that pain and suffering is universal and the majority of Americans work hard extra hard. The whole disconnect from our rightful dues comes from the ones we give a pass to when we suggest oh that’s just what politicians do.

 

They LIE and say anthing to get elected. Remember they are only frontmen. The real leaders are LOBBYISTS with deep pockets.

Since all laws are enacted by them, they only vote for ones that benefit themselves and their lobbyists who are paying millions to their campaigns.

The real reason they hated Trump winning is:

1. He wasn't bought and paid for by lobbyists so he's free to do what's best for the country rather than himself.

2. They despised someone with no political background ...just a mere business man that had the audacity to run for office, could win over their arrogant asses which made them look bad.

3. Again, since he's free and not tied down to lobbyists, they knew he would get far more accomplished for the country and that would send bad messages to other business men and women in the future to run for office which could make them become obsolete.

That's why they're rabidly bullying him to send a message to others what will happen to them if they try the same.

It's also why they used desperate measures and weaponized the FBI, DOJ, and CIA and created the infamous FAKE dossier digging themselves deeper into a hole.

And now that that's been found out, they need to get Trump impeached while slow walking the IG report hoping to hide evidence until after 2020 when they hope to win and make all their nefarious corruption go away.

We have ONE SHOT to get this country back on track...it's now or never. Whether or not anyone likes Trump's personna, he is the only one untethered with his head in the right place to achieve those goals.

SO DON'T SCREW IT UP PEOPLE!

 

No I can not agree with your categorization of the president. I give all president and prospects a chance because we should all want what is best for America. Trump let me down. There is no hope with him only what he wants. There is no vision only actions taken from partial knowledge. The art of the deal is a tool to manipulate people for your personal gains. A deal is beneficial to both parties even if one side takes a loss. But the president is running our country as such he doesn’t care when American citizens take a loss only when he does. Farmers, our troops, our teachers, our communities. And I say communities because it’s been proven he only speaks about tragedy and takes action in the ones he deems worthy. Ex peurto rico

 

Your choice but bare in mind...the alternative socialist movement will be far worse.

 

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Refuses Invitation to Visit Auschwitz Concentration Camp
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...tation-to-visit-auschwitz-concentration-camp/

A Jewish group invited her but she refused.

 

So we are militarizing the police. We are policing the world as we so please. We are not giving our citizens full rights as defined by the constitution. We are sucking the American consumer dry with the church state+ the corporate state+ trumps reveal of the deep. And the conservatives and the democrats and the Green Party aren’t saying a thing. And you want me to believe that the so called socialist who are actually saying something can’t be trusted.

 

So his case for open borders is summed up with the example of the free movement of people in the European Union.

Good lord.

First of all, yes they can move from country to country, but they cant just pull up residence there. Also, if Nigeria was part of the EU, they may have a different perspective.

Open borders offs madness and ideological.

One question. How many immigrants would it take in your opinion to create a resource unsustainable situation in the US?

 

How about 25 million

That's the number that came to the US in the 19th century and and turned us from a provincial backwater and largely a howling wilderness into the most powerful and prosperous sentient entity that has ever existed. It is the central fact of American history, the reason we are like we are today. If we become a hermit kingdom we are turning our back on our past and cutting off our future, all to satisfy bigots who want to push the most evil ideology ever to come out of the old world's long and sad history.

 

That 25 million was surpassed in the first 18 years of this century and, in fact, about 40 million have arrived since 2000.

Only allowing legal immigration will not lead to any 'hermit kingdom'. There are millions around the world who want to emigrate to the US. Nor is anyone advocating cutting off the past or cutting off the future, and following existing border laws is not 'bigotry.. That's hysteria talking.

 

We only get two choices?

 

not all republicans are conservatives actually in many states you can register as a conservative its a separate party
also you are confusing having less laws and laws you do have being enforced they aren't the same

 

that saying was a poem my someone that wasn't even in government it wasn't government policy like you think it is
and also it was written at a much different time then were we are today when we needed unskilled laborers

 

I'm not saying ti was a law in court but an illustration of how we became successful as a country.

Cons are the biggest snowflakes that exist, They want the entire country to be their safe space because they can't compete with foreigners. The Founding Fathers would horsewhip them in the street.

 

Your gal went there. And here you are defending the indefensible.

What are "ti" laws?

If she's no snowflake-why didn't AOC accept that Jewish groups offer to tour Auschwitz?

Can you see em now, Brown Eyes?



SHE went there.

 

They also weren't taken care of. They were afforded any quality of life or any benefit. You ready to go back to that too?

Saying bigots just makes you look like you have no argument. Don't cheapen your positions because its more difficult to be logical.

Every one of the 25 million was PROCESSED, recorded, and entered legally. There was ample space and lots that needed to be done/built. They came in with the shirt on their back, and weren't afforded any single guaranteed of any type of quality of life.

Ill make you a deal. We go back to the same format, where nobody has any right to any standard of living beyond those people provide for themselves, and then Ill agree with you to let 25 million in (processed of course).

Do we have a deal?

 

Not surprising...facts mean nothing to this heartless idiotic opportunist. Saying wild crazy unpopular crap gets her media coverage and that's all she cares about. The media has created a monster and it's called AOC.

 

How about we give them the same rights to use our services as we give any other taxpayer?. Immigrants use less welfare than most other groups

We didn't give ANYONE welfare back then, but we did give immigrants the same benefits as we gave our own people

 

I've gone back and forth on this argument a few times with my friend and internally, and I was kind of on the side of 'well this kind of devalues actual concentration camps'.

Then I was going through some pictures of my vacation to Europe and I got to when I went to Fort Breendonk in Belgium I realized where I stood. It wasn't a 'death camp' like Aushwitz, but it was still a concentration camp. The conditions there reminded me of the reported conditions in these detention facilities and now I believe that not using the term, gives too much cover to those looking to downplay the horrible treatment these folks are receiving.

Just because they aren't actively and systematically killing these people, doesn't mean they aren't doing everything possible to keep them from dying via neglect, sickness, etc..

 

She used concentration camps and "never again" in the same thought. Never again is directly tied to the Holocaust and the first thing ANYONE thinks of when they hear Concentration Camp, is also the Holocaust. They're all linked eternally. And now AOC is truly the queen of morons and those trying to explain this away are equally baffling=)

 

If that's the conditions that merit the monicker concentration camps wouldn't county jails as well? Thousands of Us citizens died in jail yet there is more outrage over non citizens.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...it-10-year-high-with-experts-citing-austerity

Wouldn't us jails more fit concentration camps?

I'm not saying they are but the comparison would seem to be stronger yet almost no outrage over that

 

Sure. I mean, if the stories about some of your prisons are true (moldy food, women being forced to miscarry into toilets, etc..) then I'd be inclined to agree. Sounds like an invasive problem throughout your Prison/Enforcement system.

And there has been many editorials and news reports of those conditions. Unfortunately the news media decides what gets to be a 'big story' and what 'disappears quickly'. Police/Guard unions are big big lobbies in the US and its hard to run on a campaign against abuses in those areas because then its easy to frame you as 'soft on crime'.