America can no longer be trusted

Of course he changed his mind. Is there anyone in Washington right now who kisses Trumps ass less than Lindsay? I dont think there is.

Lindsay Graham is nothing but Trumps boot licker and ass kisser. He was useless before Trump, and now hes moved from the realm of useless, to downright delusional and dangerous.

 

This isn't about NATO. This is about America and Trump. So, of course, you want to dwell on NATO.

Trump's Mideast policy is so favorable to Israel, the U.S. can no longer be trusted. The U.S. has been tossed out as a Mideast broker, replaced by Russia.

After a year and a half of Trump's trade war with China, Wall Street is finally recovering because it appears that the tariffs Trump caused are going to be removed. Millions of dollars were lost during that year and a half period.

Iran is closer to making a nuke. Why? Because in May 2018, Trump removed the U.S. from a working agreement with Iran called the JCPOA that permanently barred Iran from making a nuke. Iran has resumed her nuclear research, destroyed the largest oil refinery on the planet, seized and mined ships, and even shot down a very expensive American aircraft all because of Trump's incomprehensible decision and his harsh economic sanctions.

Trump is anti-Earth. He is removing the U.S. from the Paris Accord, joining thirteen other nations who have not signed the accord, some, like Iran and Turkey, are the largest emitters. He appoints EPA directors who are disenchanted with EPA policies. His appointments are industry friendly, kind of like the fox in the hen house scenario.

Trump's policies with respect to NATO, Ukraine, Turkey, the Assad regime in Syria, and the Middle East strongly favor Russia. Trump has never admitted that Russia interfered in our 2016 election, and he is severely critical of our intelligence agencies and the FBI.

In short, Trump gives new meaning to the term, incompetence.

 

Trump's foreign policy crises involving Syria and Ukraine that have enveloped the White House have a common element. In each case, President Trump has taken action that has had the effect of helping the authoritarian leader of Russia.

Russia announced recently that its military is patrolling near the northern Syrian town of Manbij, moving to fill a security vacuum after Trump pulled U.S. troops from the area.

Russian forces are now operating between the Turkish and Syrian militaries, helping to fulfill Moscow’s main aim of shoring up its alliance with Syria and the Russian military port housed there — an outcome Russian President Vladimir Putin has sought for years.

And without lifting a finger, Putin was able to extend leverage over Ukraine, the fragile democratic neighbor he would like to control more directly, as a result of Trump’s treatment of the country’s popular new leader.

Trump’s actions in Syria and Ukraine add to the list of policy moves and public statements that have boosted Russia during his presidency, whether that was their central purpose or not, confounding critics who have warned that he has taken too soft a stance toward a nation led by a strongman hostile to the United States.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...f5a904-ef51-11e9-89eb-ec56cd414732_story.html

So far, Trump's supporters have ignored the issues raised on this thread. Their entire focus has been on NATO and the first short para of the OP while ignoring everything else.

"Everything else" illustrates Trump's stupidity and incompetence. His fans say nothing.

One has to wonder. Why do they support Trump?

 

You described Graham to a "T." South Carolinians love him. Makes you wonder who elected Graham and Trump and their intellectual capacities.

 

Isn't that the oil refinery that's already back in full operation?

You're slipping SS.

 

So, who in the OP says they cant trust America? (Hint: our allies, who are mainly NATO)

So, of course, you want to dwell on NATO.

Oh. I see. Orange Man Bad was the entire point of the OP.

Should have known.

Seriously, get a new gig. Your TDS makes you appear unstable.

 

In private speech, Bolton suggests some of Trump's foreign policy decisions are guided by personal interest
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/do...ome-trump-s-foreign-policy-decisions-n1080651

Former national security adviser John Bolton derided President Donald Trump’s daughter and son-in-law during a private speech last week and suggested his former boss’ approach to U.S. policy on Turkey is motivated by personal or financial interests, several people who were present for the remarks told NBC News.

According to six people who were there, Bolton also questioned the merits of Trump applying his business acumen to foreign policy, saying such issues can’t be approached like the win-or-lose edict that drives real estate deals: When one deal doesn’t work, you move on to the next.

The description was part of a broader portrait Bolton outlined of a president who lacks an understanding of the interconnected nature of relationships in foreign policy and the need for consistency, these people said.

 

Could be. The Iranians destroyed the refinery. What exactly is your point?

 

I did, then I proved it.

You have a serious reading comprehension problem.

Now you got it. Finally.

You were unable to challenge the proof that Trump is incompetent.

That is what I dwelled on.

 

"destroyed" is an exaggeration. What I do not understand is how you can list a number of hostile acts by the Iranians...yet turn around and claim that maintaining a treaty with them would've been a good idea.

 

Sandy, in not interested in partaking in you TDS. Your perspectives and pure hatred for Trump brings nothing of value to this forum.

When you are capable of discussing a topic with out your vile hatred for Trump infecting every discussion let me know.

I'm here to discuss current issues and politics, not so you can scream your hatred, most likely because nobody else will listen to you.

 

Remember when France desperately wanted to attack Sryia and obama said no?

 

Because the agreement, not a treaty, was working.

 

Republicans have to be gnashing their teeth over the abject stupidity of the Republican President.

Trump's order to retreat in Syria betrayed a key ally who suffered 11,000 casualties in quelling the ISIS terrorist threat. Trump's retreat order facilitated the Turkish invasion of Syria and the attempt by the Turkish dictator, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, to annihilate the Kurds who he regards as terrorists.

Trump enabled Edogan to kill hundreds of Kurds and causing thousands more to abandon their homes, becoming refugees.

On a day when live, public House impeachment hearings began featuring two key witnesses against Trump, William B. Taylor Jr., acting ambassador to Ukraine, and his boss, George Kent, deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs, provided devastating evidence of abuse of power, on a day when desperate Republicans are trying vainly to defend Trump from his own incriminating statements, guess who Trump invites to the White House.

You got it, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

It is an in your face gesture to Republicans from a Republican President.

How smart is that?

Republicans are in the midst of drafting a bipartisan sanctions bill targeting Turkey for its aggressive action against the Kurds, aggressive action caused by Trump's retreat. Some of the strongest Congressional critics have included some of Trump's closest congressional allies, including Senator Lindsey Graham, who has repeatedly warned Erdoğan about the repercussions of his actions and has drafted his own sweeping sanctions bill targeting the country.

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle called for Trump to rescind the White House invitation to Erdoğan entirely. The White House declined to do so.

How smart is that?

Pretty smart if Trump is acting like a Russian puppet whose sole purpose is to create havoc in the capital.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/13/politics/trump-erdogan-republican-senators/index.html helped with this report.

 

That is your opinion. And even if you are correct there is no assurance it would've always worked. If something has flaws better to get out of it the earlier the better.

 

Bromides and platitudes all you left with?

 

You can't defend your hero so you try to insult me. That is infantile.

 

What makes you think I support Trump or any other federal officer?

 

Actually it was sarcasm; the use of irony to mock or show contempt. And you can be sure, that I feel a great deal of contempt; the feeling that a person or thing is below consideration, worthless, or deserving scorn, for Trump.

 

Because the issues mentioned in my analysis clearly shows Trump's incompetence, and, as a Trump supporter, that is all you have to say?

Are yu ashamed to admit you support Trump?

Or, are you anarchist?

 

I was correct. There is no "if" about it.

In May 2018 Trump removed the U.S. from the Iranian nuclear agreement, or JCPOA, which permanently barred Iran from making a nuclear weapon. Trump replaced the agreement with harsh language, threats, and stringent economic sanctions.

Trump's strategy has not worked. Gradually, Iran has been following the example Trump set, violating the JCPOA. In addition, Iran has mined and captured ships, destroyed the largest oil refinery in the world, even shooting down a very sophisticated American aircraft.

She has now taken another step in that direction.

ABC News reported, "The nuclear deal limited Iran to using only 5,060 first-generation IR-1 centrifuges. Ali Akbar Salehi, the head of Iran's nuclear program, said that Tehran is now operating 60 IR-6 advanced centrifuges in violation of its atomic deal with world powers. That's double the amount previously known."

It's complicated, but by starting up these advanced centrifuges, Iran further cuts into the one-year time limit that experts estimate Tehran would need to have enough material to build a nuclear weapon, if it chose to pursue one.

Iran has said its centrifuge decision is a direct result of Trump's withdrawal from the agreement.

 

Then we bomb them. Just as President Bush should've done before leaving office. I trust American pilots in B-1Bs and B-2As much more than anything the Iranians have signed or will ever sign.

 

You still seem confused, so I will tell you plainly that I'm not a Trump supporter.

Not particularly.

 

Which side is Trump on?

"Trump’s mistake in Syria is the unexpected ‘lottery win’ that further strengthened Moscow’s position in the Middle East and undermined America’s prestige as a rational political player and a reliable partner,” raved Mikhail Rostovsky in his article for the Russian newspaper Moskovsky Komsomolets.

The Post reports, "Kremlin-funded Russian state television has openly sided with Trump throughout the Ukraine scandal and even during the events that led up to it. For months on end, Dmitry , the host of a Sunday news show called “Vesti Nedeli” (or “The Weekly News”) on state-controlled television station Rossiya-24, encouraged Trump’s push for a Ukrainian investigation of former vice president Joe Biden and his son, as well as the groundless theory that Ukraine — not Russia — interfered in U.S. presidential elections in 2016."

Which side Trump is on is very difficult to determine in view of the support he is getting from hostile dictatorships.

 

Sandy, do you ever notice that is mostly just you talking to yourself?