Americans: racism a big problem

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  1. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    There are white people who think criticizing a president's policy is "racist".

    Staking your claims on the opinions of white liberals is not usually the best argument maker.

    Jus' sayin'
     
  2. Penrod

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    Much of this is due to the divider in chief
     
  3. MAYTAG

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    It is difficult to find work because I smoke pot regularly and many jobs drug test.

    Remember that I am not blaming anyone. Blacks can tip what they want. But I will avoid their tables best I can, just like any smart cab driver would avoid them.
     
  4. jackson33

    jackson33 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's my point, how can it be a problem, if the problem results to an opposite result.

    Frankly, IMO if Obama, was a White male from any State and had any English Name, he would never had been elected....being different from the norm can be an advantage and Mr. Trump is playing that roll, today....
     
  5. ArmySoldier

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    I agree but MSNBC won't pull the Al Sharpton show so racism lives on.
     
  6. Veryclever

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    How so? Don't just make claims, justify them.
     
  7. Lesh

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    There may be a few, but when those criticisms are prefaced with remarks like "Halfrican" and worse...it certainly does appear that they are racially motivated.
     
  8. Texas Republican

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    No one hates Obama because he's black.

    We hate him because he is a socialist who wants to "fundamentally change" the U.S.

    Liberals don't want to accept that, but that's the way it is.
     
  9. Lesh

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    Newsflash...this is a socialist democracy.

    You've heard of social security and Medicare...right?

    "Obama is a socialist"? No more than any Dem in the past 100 years...

    I wonder what's different!
     
  10. Micketto

    Micketto New Member Past Donor

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    I know you like to blame Republicans for everything wrong with the world but you should look at the facts here:

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    We went from 1/4 of the country thinking racism is a big problem... to 1/2 the country... in the past 4 years.

    Under the race politics of what many call the "Divider in Chief".
     
  11. upside-down cake

    upside-down cake Well-Known Member

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    The percentages you are running off have history...

    You take a snap-shot of the present and say, "See, this is why they fail". But the history is that Black people were suppressed and oppressed. They were psychologically tortured. Their sense of identity and self-worth consistently demolished. Black people were torn from their parents and their children. Black males were forced to breed with any Black women at the masters whim. Education was prohibited. After slavery, things were only margnially better. Blacks made some headway, but this headway was immediately attacked by other white people. They would rove around for Blacks that got too successful and destroy them or steal from them or terrorize them to they fell back. Black schools, facilities, and neighborhoods were segregated in order to preserve White supremacy and subjugate Backs to the lowest bracket of American existence. Loads and loads of toxic propaganda was displayed in all forms of media in a continuous assault so common that it was mere whimsical comedy. Such things are infamously remembered in childrens cartoons of the likes of Disney, Bugs Bunny, and such. The President of the United States plays "Birth of a New Nation" in the White House and acclaims it as one of the best movies. This is a thoroughly racist movie. (may I re-emphasize, the President of the United States; the guardian of liberty and democracy, the symbol of the American government)

    Another American gem, Herbert Hoover, was ceaseless in his efforts to destroy those Black Leader and organizations that attempted to rally the Black Community from these types of assaults. Each one met with a violent end. The Black Panthers- now so throroughly mischaracterized as a bunch of malcontent Black men with guns though you never reallyhear of Black Panthers walking about stringing up White people...) was actually a community organization of astounding affect on the Black community who inspired things from youth programs, school advancement, social fostering and such...until the local police working with federal agents stormed in on their leadership and assassinated the leaders. Other government forces infiltrated the groups and incited them towards extremist acts of retaliation of which they were then promptly busted for.

    Just saying...Black degredation in society is the deliberate plan and the undeniable heritage of White America. Yes, White people today- on average- do not have a hand in it because the process has been so rigorous in the past that the problem has no become self-inflicting. Black people are so throughly broken in some parts of this country that they do not perceive of another way. But this is not- for the most part- their fault. And no, it's not as simple as "pulling up your shoes" because I can bet my two eyes, even if every Black person in the country were to become thebest engineers, doctors, lawyers, teachers, and mathemeticians, there would be White people who would be up in arms because they feel that Black people are stealing their nation from them- that there are too many Blacks in the government- etc.

    This is not to say that White people are inherently more evil. But it is just a fact of history. White people are the greatest destroyers of other civilizations past and present. The worlds greatest theives and raiders. You talk about Black people robbing and killing on the street. White people have robbed and killed whole countries. They wish to mitigate some of this guilt by tossing back some coins- which is ridiculous since they got this coin by thoroughly exploiting and stealing from these people in the first place. "We'll take all your countries resources, but we'll build some schools, send some busted/experimental vaccines over, and call it even"

    All this flies in the face of that truth. The only reason White people are successful at the moment is because they were the most prolific, unscrupulous cultural raiders in history. Look at Canada and Australia. Where are the Indians and the Aborigines? Gone, for the most part. A mere fraction of the nation. But I suppose casino rights and no taxes is the White mans unimpeachable gift to the World, yes? A fair trade, yes? Maybe unfair, since every other hard-working White man pays taxes. Why not the Indians to right. They got to respect our countries ways.

    Laughable, mate. Thoroughly egocentric.
     
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  12. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let's not forget Nixon's War on Drugs, also an institutionalized effort to discredit Blacks and silence any protest of their condition.
     
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    I pointed out that all of this is a product of both history and culture. Many black middle aged adults have lived through racial opressions. I get it. But what you seem to not get is that racism is a product of slavery. And guess who introduced slavery to the west? Africa. When the Portuguese first came and landed on Cape of good hope, the African bargained with slaves. After that it was African people themselves that went and captured more slaves to buy guns to kill eachother.

    After that you have outright slavery vessels just kidnapping people.

    With the collapse of the roman empire, the west has moved on from slavery. It's Africans that didn't and reintroduced it to the west.

    Now their decendant try to re-introduce an issue that Hans been long resolved.

    Why introduce something that's long since passed. Racism has been a problem for many years now it's not. Although racism still happens, it not a big problem. But why make it a problem by introducing outliers?
     
  14. Lesh

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    Wait...that's the new right wing meme?
    That slavery in America was the fault of Africans?
    Odd that they all ended up in the Americas huh?
    The fact is that the EUROPEAN colonies based most of their economy on African slaves.

    Trying to blame the slaves for their plight is disingenuous at best

    What is happening in the world all across the globe is a direct result of colonialism be it in Africa or the Middle East
     
  15. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The buyer controls the market, not the seller. Slavery existed because there were willing customers in the US.
     
  16. QLB

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    So supply doesn't enter into the equation? The customer wanted labor, not necessarily slaves.
     
  17. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Supply only exists because of the customer. The customer didn't want labour - it's not like they were willing to pay a fair wage to the workers, or they would have used American farm workers. They wanted slaves.
     
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    No, if you knew anything of hystory, you would know that Portugal was establishing TRADE routes. Not colonies. That won't be until much later.

    When they reached the Caped of Good Hope it was AFRICANS who offered the slaves captured for TRADE. YOU see, Africans were ALREADY TRADING SLAVES among themselves.

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    No slavery existed because there was a willing market in Africa. Eutopr was re-introduced to this market by Africa.
     
  19. QLB

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    Wrong, it exist because of availability till something better comes along. Of course they wanted slaves, but it was because when they put the ink to the paper it was cheaper and a lot of people benefited in the process. This included the supplier of the slaves who made it even cheaper.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No idea what you meant here.
     
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    The fact that the offspring of a slave is also a slave makes it even better

    Imagine if a business capitalist came upon a machine that self replicated and followed any commanded tasks for the entirety of its life.

    To the Eropeans those slaves where just that; just as advertised by Africans. And it was sold just as that by African tribes.
     
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    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It existed only due to the specific customers looking for it. Slavery didn't exist in Canada, didn't exist in the areas of the US where they weren't in the market for it. Africa didn't cause slavery, they met the need.
     
  23. QLB

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    Wonderful, till obsolescence makes it redundant and with people expensive. Says loads about the Black culture too. Replaced by Hispanics but unable to make the jump up to the next level as a society.
     
  24. Fallen

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    I mean that slavery existed in europe. But it went down with the collapse of the roman empire.


    It was later African tribes along and soon beyond the new Portuguese trade routes that re-introduced slavery to europe.
     
  25. Doug_yvr

    Doug_yvr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No it didn't. In fact slavery existed in England until the 18th century.
     

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