America's average gun violence victim is white and male

I have stated quite clearly which laws have evidence that they reduce suicide. NONE of them involve BANS

 

This study, or another one: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26270305

Suicide Rates and State Laws Regulating Access and Exposure to Handguns.
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Abstract
OBJECTIVES:
Using previous research, we examined the impact of 4 handgun laws (waiting periods, universal background checks, gun locks, and open carrying regulations) on suicide rates.

METHODS:
We used publicly available databases to collect information on statewide laws, suicide rates, and demographic characteristics for 2013.

RESULTS:
Each law was associated with significantly lower firearm suicide rates and the proportion of suicides resulting from firearms. In addition, each law, except for that which required a waiting period, was associated with a lower overall suicide rate. Follow-up analyses showed a significant indirect effect on overall suicide rates through the proportion of suicides by firearms, indicating that the reduced overall suicide rate was attributable to fewer suicide attempts, fewer handguns in the home, suicide attempts using less lethal means, or a combination of these factors. States that implemented any of these laws saw a decreased suicide rate in subsequent years, whereas the only state that repealed 1 of these laws saw an increased suicide rate.
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that violates the constitution especially if its may issue.

unless someone has been adjudicated mentally incompetent, more thorough checks are worthless and would have found the adjudication right away

 

When asked what laws you felt would reduce suicides, you replied "Gun control will". "Assault weapons" bans and magazine restrictions are gun control, are they not?

"Gun control" without specifics is a worthless term. Please try to be more specific in the future.

 

So gun control reduces suicides. I agree completely

 

It does not violate the constitution. That is simply an unsupported opinion

 

guns are often anathema to collectivists because gun ownership causes people to be less dependent on government and less likely to cede rights to the government in order to get illusions of more safety

 

requiring a permit to exercise a right is patently unconstitutional

 

Well we seem to agree gun control reduces suicides as per your study

 

That is simply factually incorrect

 

the silly assumptions gun banners come up with are amazing. I don't see anything close to being relevant or convincing proof

 

"Anestis' study, which came out shortly after Crifasi's, also found that a law in the District of Columbia that extended the waiting period to complete a handgun purchase was associated with a 2.2% drop in suicides, whereas South Dakota's repeal of a waiting period law was associated with a 7.6% increase in suicides."

Not according to the linked study. Can you show which study showed that waiting periods had the effect you claim on the suicide rate? With regards to other laws, show that UBCs or waiting periods reduce suicides in people that already have guns, and what open carry restrictions have on reducing the suicide rate.

Will a 5 day waiting period prevent more suicides than a 3 day waiting period?

 

I presented the Anestis study. You are engaging in the fallacy of unreasonable expectations

 

Which explains why you post so much of it.

Some National Review articles on the anti-gun mob:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/437406/gun-rights-america-history-lesson

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/443297/miss-sloane-gun-control-flop

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/366226/gun-control-dishonesty-charles-c-w-cooke

 

Nope you're wrong. LOL

 

Would you have a problem requiring a license to freedom of speech? Freedom of assembly? Any other rights?

 

Shocker!!!! LOL

 

We require permits in those areas already

 

How much did you pay for your license to post on political forums? Did you have to wait very long to be allowed to purchase a registered computer? How long did it take to obtain the license for you to have a dinner party with a few guests?

One problem Constitution shredders don't understand is that once a precedent is set, it can be used for other amendments. All for your own good, of course.

 

can our resident gun restrictionists tell us how a waiting period has any utility when applied to someone who already owns guns legally? the gun banner movement has claimed that most new gun purchases are not made by new gun owners but are merely an additional gun for someone who already owns guns. based on that, what possible value would a waiting period have?

 

The 9th Circuit Court says that 10 days waiting period is a "reasonable precaution" with no actual data. What is "reasonable" is purely subjective. Of course, in that same decision they said:

"“Before the age of superstores and superhighways, most folks could not expect to take possession of a firearm immediately upon deciding to purchase one. As a purely practical matter, delivery took time. Our 18th and 19th century forebears knew nothing about electronic transmissions. Delays of a week or more were not the product of governmental regulations, but such delays had to be routinely accepted as part of doing business,” says the court’s ruling", again without any proof at all.

New Jersey has a 30 day waiting period. Is that an unreasonable precaution, given the ruling by the 9th Circuit Court?

http://www.guns.com/2016/12/15/cour...day-waiting-period-on-guns-is-constitutional/

 

not in most cases. I need no permit to post here or to note that the gun banner movement is disingenuous

 

I think ten days is very reasonable

 

But you admit in some we do. I accept your concession. LOL

 

I would like to impose a law-if I could,that would make any politician who imposes a waiting period, legally liable for anyone who tries to purchase a gun and is forced to wait and that person is then attacked. The politicians would be considered an accessory after the fact to the crime.