'Annie' remake: casting of black lead provokes negative Twitter posts

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  1. arborville

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    Okay, so we are talking about the Fantastic Four. However, the movie was a flop for a different reason than simply who or what race played the characters. If you read the critics responses, they focused on directing and writing, which contributes to how well or how bad the acting is done. When I watched the movie, it was simply a repeat of the movie that came out in 2004. They could have done better with the following characters: Storm, Hulk and Spider Man. That would make an interesting movie and involve the Earth 616 series as a backdrop for the movie. Audiences would love it, if the directing and writing were done correctly, along with enough special effects to keep the audience entertained.
     
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    So again

    Would there be outrage if the next Shaft movie had a white actor in the lead role? Foxy Brown? What if the new "In the Heat of the Night" TV series has a white Virgil Tibbs?
     
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    Oh my apologies Arborville. i thought you were weighing in on FF. Sorry, my mistake.
     
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    Fair enough, However, when you see the pics of the cast, and see how little regard was taken with them...how well could we have expected any of the rest to be handled? When you butcher the heroes and villians, Im not sure even a triple A script would ahve salvaged it.

    Comic Book movies are one of those things that need to stay true to their source material IMO. Some variations of course are ok if needed onscreen...but some just scream bad, unneeded choice.


    Honestly the worst part on the thing to me is seeing a third whiff on Dr Doom. :(
     
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    No problem :smile:
     
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    I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but they are redoing the Fantastic Four again.
     
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    nobody would give a hoot if shaft was played by matt damon. it would be credit to shaft in the first place and the writer would be chuffed and raking in the dollar. your point fails to explain anything. getting a white guy to play "jesus" now thats another matter, that is stealing the identity and true history of black folks and that is wicked practice, thats why white media did it, for entirely wicked purposes.
     
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    Thats not bad news at all man, I'm glad to hear it. I'm hoping this time they actually regard the original property with the respect it deserves, and make a good one.

    I've always loved the FF, was one of my favs growing up.

    Going to keep my hopes up that they'll get it right this time.
     
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    I'm A jew with Blond hair and Blue Eyes

    Anne Frank was DUTCH ie From the Netherlands.
     
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    ROFL you wanna bet, the black community would be up in arms.

    It explains the folly of the "it's just a fictional character" argument, Shaft is a fictional character so is Foxy Brown and if a white were picked to play either role in a remake the black community would line up in protest.

    If Jesus existed he was a Caucasian not a Negroid.
     
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    they wouldnt be up in arms.
    your assertion that if jesus existed he would be this or that is besides the point, the point is he was persecuted, whipped, put in chains and lynched. therefore he couldnt have been white since whites were the ones doing that to none whites.
     
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    If Jesus existed, he would look more like a Palestinian than anything else.

    If Jesus existed, he would be going to those groups you deem "undesirable."
     
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    Logic is understanding differences.
    The notion all human beings should be or will ever be viewed as the same is...unrealistic and curious.
     
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    I don't think logic means I have to understand differences... I think logic means I must have a set of guidelines to follow and apply them equally, to differences...

    I think its okay to be different, as long as we all have opportunity, results will vary... but it seems a growing trend that people want to force others to think and act as they choose, rather than allow choice... (politically I guess both sides do this)... I miss the days, when it was okay, for one voice, to have the right to say no... but today, we seek to destroy that one voice, in the name of democracy, or whatever nutty weird stereotypes people like to use... :)
     
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    if jesus existed, he would be throwing his arms up in the air and say "I leave this place for 2000 years and this is what you people do"... and then he'd shake his head... and maybe grab a cellphone and watch youtube videos about pranks gone wrong... hahah those are so funny man...
     
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    My points exactly.
     
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    I think today many people want to seem kosher by espousing one thing when their experience tells them the contrary.
    For instance, that men and women are no different....Or that blacks and Asians are no different....Or that Christians and Muslims aren't much different...
    Logic understands why I'm not dropping my toddler off at a single, middle-aged male's house for babysitting. Logic gets why I'm inclined to have more confidence in a male car mechanic. Logic sees an all Asian NFL team as silly and is putting money on the black team to win. Logic profiles Muslims getting on an airplanes.
     
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    You think that Anne Frank was German too do you? effin idiot

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    what colour do you think Palestinians are?
     
  20. GeorgiaAmy

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    Anne Frank was a Jew. I said having a German play her onstage would be an outrage.
    Palestinians are very olive complected, very dark hair and eyes.
     
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    logic doesn't explain any of those things... stereotypes and discrimination do though... perhaps you should explore the definition of the words...

    its not logical to assume a man is better than a woman at being a car mechanic, but your own personal stereotypes and discrimination would explain that...

    words have meaning, when you use them wrong, it loses all meaning...
     
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    There are red haired and blond haired Palestinians and Palestinians with green and blue eyes. Most have fark hair and rown eyes obviously as do most Jews
     
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    Stereotypyes don't materialize out of a vacuum.
    I'll look dorward to your stats on the success of male preschool teachers and female auto mechanics in your society. Haha....along with any idiot that thinks you can produce such a thing.
     
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    Blond and ginger Jews and Arabs....brilliant, perfectly common sense statement.
    Thanks genius.
     
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    You are claiming there are no blondcor ginger jews or Arabs? Lets just get this down for the record. Next ypu will be claiming Julius Caeser wasn 't blond
     

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