Antarctica once covered in palm trees, scientists discover

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  1. Stagnant

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    Solar activity has been long since considered as a factor. If you think that climatologists are ignoring it, then you're missing something. Methane release is measured the same way any gas release is - parts per million in the atmosphere - and it's (*)(*)(*)(*) sure included in the models. I haven't heard much about magnetic field shifts, which probably means it's a non-issue. See, here's the thing: climatologists? They aren't stupid. They're not about to miss something obvious like this. They have to be pretty precise - no other field has its models so scrutinizingly examined for tiny little out-of-place details as climatology. There's a whole cottage industry built around exactly that - finding flaws, and touting them as "THE GREAT GLOBAL WARMING HOAX PT. 32 BAJILLION!" Even flaws that aren't actually there. But seeing as two of the things you brought up were examined excruciatingly and actually included... Eh.
     
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    I read an article in my new issue of Discover mag. that says they may soon be able to track the history of magnetic shifts by the rock layers from the volcanos there. You can check it with a compass.

    And one must consider the "drift". Antarctica is not where it used to be. They have also discovered a Permian forest in Mongolia.
     
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    For the record, I think this idea is absolutely fascinating. I don't even object to your idea that water is added by the mechanism you have described. Here's the problem: In order for the continents to fit together on a smaller Earth, the planet would have to have been much, much smaller, very much, much smaller. Just to get it down to the size of Mars, you'd have to subtract 221,000,000,000 cubic miles. But there are only 332,500,000 cubic miles of water on Earth. You would need other mass, or something about mass would have to be changing in order for the planet's volume to increase like that.

    This is what it looks like. The larger blue bubble represents all the water on Earth.

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    http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/earthhowmuch.html
     
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    No we are going to base our assumptions on something called PHYSICS - which is an actual science and not just something Sheldon off of "Big Bang Theory" is interested in
     
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    IT does - agreed but then they have some pretty powerful computers that have been working on this over the last 20-30 years
     
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    The theory claims earth was half the size it is today, with no water. at all.

    Heres another forum, that I just found.
    http://ga.water.usgs.gov/edu/earthhowmuch.html

    Theres another site with all the video in quicktime format. Ill find it.
     
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    Earth is getting less dense as well.

    The mass can be similar with a changing volume.
     
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    I didnt post that, you altered what I posted.

    You are the joke.

    That video about pangea is why I posted that link
     
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    it's a topic in the link you posted


    so is this:


    Biblical Dinosaurs or Dragons of Lore?

    Were there dinosaurs on the ark

    Every Sunday School teacher throughout the last hundred years have had to deal with this very question. Only the innocence of youth would Ponder how many Huge-a-saurese it would take to capsize the ark. The Bible clearly states that the Lord has finished his creative efforts and all life, plant, animal, or man are here at the time of the flood. However, the donosaurs may have been already exctinct and I ponder how these brutes would have survived decompression. Although, there is another interesting possibly correlative event with the Flood of Noah.


    it's in your link


     
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    So what? I didnt reference it.
     
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    you posted the reference link

    and just in case you don't understand what that means, i'll help you out

    it means you don't understand the importance of evaluating information sources
     
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    Wow! A whole 'nother bunch of physics laws just thrown out the window!!

    But I will bite - give us an explanation as to how this is happening - I love a good piece of fantasy fiction
     
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    From the Article...

    The samples are between 53 and 46 million years old and contain fossil pollen and spores that are known to originate from the Antarctic coastal region.

    So... They find pollen and spores in rock that ARE KNOWN TO ORIGINATE FROM THAT EXACT LOCATION... and I'm supposed to be amazed?

    I am not...
     
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    Okay, how about this. At some point in the future, the expansion of space caused by dark energy should overcome gravity and, eventually, electromagnetism and the color force, at which point protons and neutrons will be unbound. Nothing will exist other than quantum particles. I don't know how the countering effect this has on gravity should look like with respect to matter, now. But there might be a mechanism in there somewhere.
     
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    Pfffffffttttt!!

    Yep! Now let me see if I can use my "brane" to tie string theory into this somewhere!

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