Antigun groups once again display ignorance

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  1. Lesh

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    How did we devolve into talking about air rifles?
    Oh and the range on your new toy is 80 yards.
    Are you claiming that this was overlooked and should be regulated ?

    OK

    And as noted...the subject of this thread is a rifle with s suppressor and a range of 200 yards that you have no problem getting into the hands of convicted felons
     
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    There are two kinds of anti-gun leftists - those that Lenin would refer to as 'useful idiots', and those that would be Lenin. Pick one.
     
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    Says the person who believes black-powder firearms haven an inherent sound suppressor.
     
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    False. Suppressors are regulated by the NFA in and of themselves, entirely separate from whatever firearm they may be used on.
    Someone lied to you, and you, lacking any knowledge of the subject, believed them.
     
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    Here is what is being discussed

    8. MUZZLELOADERS Even if silencers were removed from the NFA, the guns they attach to would still be subject to certain basic provisions of federal law. These laws prohibit convicted felons and other dangerous people from possessing guns, require gun retailers to be licensed, and require licensed retailers to conduct background checks on purchasers. There is one blanket exception to these laws, however: the exception for antique firearms, including muzzleloaders. The gun industry is determined to exploit this exception. Muzzleloaders are firearms that must be loaded through the end of the barrel with powder, wadding and a projecticle. Muzzleloaders fell out of favor as a firearm of choice almost a century ago, and are generally seen as primitive antiques. That’s why federal law generally exempts them from regulation. Cue the .50 caliber muzzleloader, which delivers a particularly lethal .50 caliber round. This weapon is designed with a built-in device to suppress its sound. If any other firearm were built with such a device, it would be subject to the NFA as a silencer. But since this device is designed to suppress the sound of something that is exempt from federal firearms laws, it is not considered a silencer and not subject to the NFA. In fact, it is not subject to any laws at all and can be bought online
     
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    The point of this thread is the anti-gun side not knowing what it's talking about.
    Thank you for proving it.
     
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    None of this has anything to do with suppressors.
    Suppressors are ALWAYS subject to the NFA. ALWAYS. That is, 100% of the time.
     
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    Whoever told you this, lied.
     
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    Click the link Mr. Expert
     
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    NOT WHEN THEY ARE INTEGRAL TO A NON REGULATED WEAPON

    Go ahead. Admit you don't know what you are talking about
     
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    Silencerco

    PRODUCT OVERVIEW
    For the first time since the National Firearms Act (NFA) was created in 1934, civilians can enjoy suppressed shooting in most states with SilencerCo's latest innovation: the integrally suppressed Maxim 50 muzzleloader. In addition, this product can be purchased right now on the web with no regulation (no 4473, no $200 tax stamp, no photographs, and no fingerprints) and be shipped immediately to the customer with few exceptions.

    In addition to producing hearing safe sound results, the Maxim 50 also offers shooters greatly reduced recoil and a 2/3 reduction of smoke emissions when compared to non-moderated muzzleloaders. You can head to the SilencerCo web store today to buy your Maxim 50 and enjoy shooting suppressed. *Must be 18 years or older to purchase.
     
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    Well? Was there something you were gonna say?
     
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    I don't regularly shoot muzzleloaders, but I do have a collection of them. I have several antigue muskets and and other guns.

    That being said, I believe that they should be regulated if they are in working order. If they are non-firing, fine, but if they can still be fired, it's best to ensure that they are regulated just like any other firearm,
     
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    Then what in the hell are you worried about? You keep waving the word suppressor around like it's some sort of totem that works like a Hollywood movie.

    I thought you were frightened of muskets now?

    Do you think percussion caps don't explode causing quite a bit of noise?

    Are you, the guy that thought all air rifles were bb guns, wanting to compare arms knowledge?
     
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    Did you miss that prior post dear?


    https://www.airgundepot.com/benjamin-bulldog.html

    ^ look at the definitive guide offerred in the link.
    Goes out quite a bit past 30 yards. It's intended to hunt boar and deer with.
     
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    Your entire premise is laughable.

    Blood will flow in the streets! Gangs will snipe us from 2000 yards with a completely silenced weapon that is so quiet it goes negative db!

    Bodies will pile up in waterways and under bridges!

    You guys and your imaginations is hilarious.

    Always some stupid cause supported by the worlds SJWs.
     
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    FYI this "silenced" weapon, is 139db according to it's spec sheet I just looked at.

    lolz.

    People who parrot this stuff as a threat to society need to get a grip on reality.
     
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    Lol so ONLY as loud as a ****ing jackhammer then.

    Typical pearl clutching grabbers
     
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    You realize you can't remove that silencer? It's built into the barrel of the weapon. And it quiets it to only as loud as a ****ing jackhammer at 139 decibels.
     
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    Gawd dang Billy Bob that thar muzzle loada is completely silent!

    We need laws! Moar laws! Ten round powder horns!

     
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    Cant argue that point..
     
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    Careful. You have to dose out reality in small amounts to liberals freaking out over FIFTY caliber rifles that can create a 10 foot zone of invisibility around them.
     
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    Is it +2 to damage though? And what's the critical hit multiplier?
     

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