Army officer sues Virginia police over violent traffic stop

Actually, I think you'll find the opposite.

 

it helps if you know what the **** you are talking about before posting. He broke no law, what so ever.

that you want to live in a communist and authoritarian country is despicable. Thankfully, the US constitution will not let you trample the rights of citizens.

 

I do need to start paying closer attention to postings. So many people I thought were on the right have turned out to be Comply or Die folks.

 

The only problem with that is that a police department would never review this situation without a little resistance. The lead cop should be fired immediately for making it a felony stop on the lie that he was evading the police when they know damn well he wasn't.

Yet if he doesn't resist getting out of a car leading to the officer further abusing his authority and creating a nice viral video of it, the department would have laughed it off.

There needs to be more reviews of regular interactions like this so we can weed out the bad apples, and most importantly so they don't teach the new officers to be as bad as they are. I will bet the farm that this isn't the only bad stop involving that officer. Just one of the few that the driver protested.

 

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...t-traffic-stop.586908/page-20#post-1072565924
Feel free at any time to quote so much as one lawyer site to back up your following claim:
"He was under no obligation to exit his vehicle. He had the right to tell the cops to go **** themselves,"

I know you won't, because you can't.

 

From the article in the OP

 

I now have an opinion. By the way, who cares if you have an opinion or not?
Gutierrez the cop has lost his job due to this incident. And the Army Lt filed a suit against both cops.
The Lt was under orders to stop a mile earlier and refused to. He fled to a gas station where back up showed up. Anyway, the suit is for money. I do not know yet the outcome of that suit.

 

I MEANT the opposite. Having brain fog today. LOL

 

LOL I'm not the one who wrote "Sorry I have no opinion after seeing 2 cop cars had stopped him" as if everyone is just waiting for your opinion.

LOL "fled" at 18mph

 

If you look closely you’ll see it depends who is being asked to comply.

 

The cop has been fired. I have no doubt this isn't his first time. Nobody has that level of sheer unmitigated gall during their first rodeo.

 

I call mine vapor lock. Just part of our human condition.

 

This incident has caused quite a stir in Virginia, and rightly so.

Unfortunately, the videos you posted show only a short clip of the entire encounter between Lt. Nazario and the police.

When I first heard about this incident it was reported that Mr. Nazario had received conflicting orders from the officers at the scene and that may have been partly responsible for why things went down the way they did. Of course, Mr. Nazario had every right to question why he was pulled over, as well, and as it turns out he wasn't charged with anything.

I had a similarly bad experience in another county here in the Commonwealth and I can say that from that and my other experiences with the police that the vast majority of the policemen and women in Virginia are great people, but we do have a few that have no business wearing a badge. Unfortunately, in the eyes of the public, one bad apple can ruin the entire barrel.

In conclusion, I haven't seen or heard everything in this case but everything I've seen is bad, from the incident itself to no charges being filed to the firing of one of the policemen.

 

Driving less than 20mph with his flashers on.

And again, it is suggested by police themselves that people wait to pull over till they are at a gas station or such. My wife was told by the local police where her hospital is to drive to the fire station and never just stop when there are flashing lights behind her due to the crime on the road she takes to get to work.

 

The cop that assaulted me was sent to the Watts division, as punishment, which I found Ironic.

 

What you fail to take into account is this guy went to school with two different colored socks when he was in 2nd grade so this cop had EVERY reason on the planet to conclude he was a non-conformist and draw his weapon. Facts matter! /sarc

 

Defund the police, and those that are left must have body cams and the must be on at all times. I don't care if they are taking a dump.

 

I think you forgot the /S.

 

Yep. My bad. I figure the smart people will get it anyway.

 

Rhetorically speaking

Do you believe military personnel should receive special favor by the police? That they should not be pulled over for traffic violations and be issued citations? That if police are making a stop they should be able to refuse to follow thier lawful commands because they belong to the military?

Do you think it proper for the First Sargent to be telling all the recruits that if the police pull them over on a lawful civilian stop they do not have to comply with their commands?

 

It was a traffic stop and again go ahead and do as this guy did and refuse the lawful orders of the police. Resist that attempt as he did even pulling his arm out of the grasp of the lead officer. Tell they you broke no law so they have not right to pull you over and ask you out of the car. Go ahead you do that. I won't and guess who will be on their way in short order without being pepper sprayed or having force used against and not face a possible arrest.

 

Is this how you think all traffic stops should be conducted? Be honest.

 

No either comply with the lawful orders of the police when they stop you or face the consequences. Amazing how that works.

As I have said you are free to not cooperate, you are free to argue, you are free to resist but then don't whine when you face the consequences.

 

I've done nothing of the sort and when they police pull you over you don't know it may be because there is a BOLA on a car your vehicle matches. YOU don't get to decide if you will stop or not. The fact is this temp tag was even behind DARKLY tinted windows at night. Mine when I was pulled over and the officer checked was out in the open where my tag normally goes. Did I argue with the officer claiming he had no right to pull me over that I did nothing wrong and refuse to comply with his instructions? NO. Would you?