As Much As I Despised The Last President, I Always Stood For My Country's Flag

Yup, and he and his supporters are saying all the wrong things. It is typical redneck stuff.

Trump cannot provide, his redneck followers can't provide, one single statement from any player that is critical of our flag or our country.

Trump just made that up because he is on the defensive. He knows the unnecessary chaos he caused and all the bad press. He just pounded another nail into his Presidency.

If he ever learned to shut up, nearly all his troubles would go away.

But for some strange reason, he loves to attack Americans.

 

Moral clauses? No problem with those. Since when does peaceful protest equate to immorality?

 

First I am a citizen of New York City. bred and born in Brooklyn the borough of Kings. If the players wanted to protest, why should they disrespect the Anthem and the Flag? Oh, forgot Obama does that quite regularly so according to you it's okay for Black players to kneel or sit too.

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Same difference.

For me it is the accident of my birth. I much admire Japanese values. But Japan could never be my home. It will always feel foreign while the US will always feel like home even if it continues its long slide into cultural Marxism.

Police brutality was a national issue before Trump, has been off and on for decades and Kaep did pull his stunt on national TV.

Really, the left is the gift that keeps on giving lobbing softballs for Trump to hit out of the park. You've been dealt a losing hand on this one. Kaep's bluff has been called and I am enjoying the consternation this has caused for the left.

You may think that his antics are not disrespectful, but what you think doesn't matter in this case. Most people recognize the disrespect and that is what counts. So yes, it was ham handed at the time. Nobody is talking about police brutality now, are they? Its all about kneeling for the anthem, 1st Amendment, etc.

 

This isn't really about free speech ( there is none during work hours), the first amendment ( does not apply to private relationships) or patriotism ( you can't measure something like that through any single symbolic act). Its about an employer sponsored ritual/ tradition, involving the performance of a song and what the employees are permitted to do, or required to do during that song. I leave it between them to figure out, and I don't much care how these employees and these employers work out the details of this public display.


There are now NINE threads about the anthem and who is kneeling and what everyone thinks about it. This really is not worthy of all this melodrama.

 

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Kneeling and bowing one's head to your creator is natural and sometimes even prostrating was required when appearing before Monarchs and tyrants. Standing with one's head held high with a hand over the heart is the American method of respecting the flag and anthem of this country, unlike the fist held high of Marxism, anarchism, and AntiFa.

 

No one even gave a hoot a week ago until Trump made it a big deal.

Meanwhile, a strike against us from NK is inevitable, also because of his big mouth.

 

Sorry if you hate numbers.

 

Not true.
I remember going to Ball Games and we all stood up to sing the national anthem.
Guest singing was the first mistake.

The anthem at the beginning of a ball game is about us, all Americans.
People pay money for tickets to watch a game, not get into someone's personal politics.

I remember when athletes were to be roll models, not primdonna.
And I agree with the President that team owners should expel players who disrespect the flag.
It's about the game. Fair play. The American way. Not their 1st Amendment rights at the moment.

Don't get me started.

And toddwv, stop staring at your avatar. ​

 

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Really I think it's all about the fact that no NFL team will sign him to a contract.

 

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At every Town Planning Board meeting we all stand face the American flag and pledge allegiance to the Republic of the United States of America.

 

Back in the days when Blacks actually did have problems, it would then be more tolerable had say the NFL of say 1950 did this.

But Blacks gun down far more blacks than whites do. Black on black crime is still rampant. We can't come close to killing as many blacks as they kill of whites.

We whites have the problem. Not blacks.

 

He quarterbacked my then favorite team. If the 49ers dare back Colin, I will renounce the 49rs in a half second. So far as I am aware the team canned Colin and do not want him back.

 

Are you predicting that little runt will fire a missile at my area? My area is prime for him to hit. We will blow that little pudgy jerk out of existence if he dares fire at us. He is still trying to make nukes and good rockets. We have a lot of them here in my state. We want him to start a war .... no actually, I do not, but the jerk keeps making threats. I back up Trump who wants him stopped.

 

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Colin Kaepernick's biggest problem? Performance, not politics - NFL ...
http://www.espn.com/blog/nflnation/...icks-biggest-problem-performance-not-politics
Mar 20, 2017 - Years have passed since he was effective, and he's not the only QB available ... The better player you are, the less teams will heed their off-field ...
Simply put, years have passed since he was an effective quarterback. He is 29 years old, has succeeded only in an unsustainable scheme and is part of a well-populated group of former starters who also remained available as the week began.
Watch the video....

 

The OP is most likely the same type of person who demands school children be forced to recite the pledge of allegiance, a pledge of eternal blind loyalty to the state. In these types of peoples minds, country is more important than people.

 

Real Americans understand the values of the freedom of speech and support it. You ain't no "real" American.

Because you RWers will complain and whine about that too. Is there ever a really convenient time and place for a protest? Should MLK have just marched in the dead of night out in the middle of the desert for his protests?

 

Plenty of white men sure did during the VN war though. What's your point?

 

Yep, hate wrapped in truth.

 

Ah, the freedom to look....................................................or not.

 

His family supports him in his protest. Why does Trump called his mother a b***h??

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/09/col...st-fired-teresa-kaepernick-mom-proud-response

 

I understand the owners concerns, which are entirely economic of course.

They fear a player's strike if they impose sanctions or suspend players. Most players on their team are not high paid, are not intellectual giants, know they are in the Not-For-Long league for which they are 2rd or 3rd string that only see play if there is an injury or the outcome of the game is already known, for which their place on the team may well end this season. Those players also know if they cross the team or key top players they could essentially be run off by being disregarded by other team members.

The owners hoped this would blow over, possibly with the solution of players kept inside during the national anthem, then to come rush out to cheers after the opening ceremonies.

They also are arrogant themselves and likely are furious of the President getting into their business trying to politically capitalize on the tough situation the owners are in. The NFL already has problems of growing head-injury claims and issues, dropping attendance and interest before any of this, and resistance possibly growing to their advertising fees and very high ticket prices that are minimally hundreds of dollars per game, while baseball tickets are as low as 1/5th to 1/20th of NFL tickets - and aware that the NLB never really recovered from the baseball player's strikes.

I am confident that the owners and NFL will change games so that players are not brought out onto the field until after all preliminaries and the national anthem sung. This eliminates the visual of players kneeling and in the media if there is no visual image the story dies. TV works on visuals, not just words. In that way, owners will hope to effective silent their player's protest and lay the issue to rest.

 

You mean the Nazis who were defeated by Americans who stood for the national anthem and saluted the flag? For this, you RANT over people who protest those who protest - it "chaps" your "ass" any anyone DARE protest the players. YOUR MESSAGE IS THE HYPOCRISY.

 

He is still receiving millions under his contract.

 

Once again, you failed to see the obvious. But something tells me you really do understand, but you would not fit into the agenda.
Bottom Line: Free Human Being "choose" to do whatever they want, no different than you I assume.

These Protests, from a Black Person's perspective, was about Justice and Injustice. Nothing about Saluting or Pledging Allegiance to anything. Why you can't or won't try to understand that, really no longer matters. No one looking for Acceptance or Permission to Protest. Because it's a Right backed by the Constitution and people Gave their Lives, not just in US Wars, but on US Land by US People.

It doesn't matter if you or anyone else accept these protest, because no one is asking your permission; it's that simple.