Ban importing chritianity to developing countries

Prove it then,, you have proven nothing.

This perversion thingy is wearing a tad thin.

The only perversion I see are the tens of millions of UXOs littering the Lao countryside.

 

Oh the abscence of evidence is indeed proof.

Indeed, the when the proof of Christians bull dozing schools is ... UXO?

Yep, you have been debunked. Deal with it.

 

Don't you think people can't tell the difference between a UXO explosion and a bulldozed rice field? UXO explosions don't leave tracks.

 

Where did I say Christians bulldozed a school?

 

Of course, that is why when we ask for documentation about a bulldozer we are surprised by the lack of tracks .... but the clarion call of a UXO, which is obviously not a track leaving bulldozer is it?

What's exactly are you claiming we are not getting?

 

That is actually a pretty nasty racist thing to say. It shows a clear lack of understanding of the issues within Africa.

Its not about being stupid. It is simply that a lot of people in Africa and other countries have not had the education that a lot of us take for granted. A lot of people in the villages around where i live have similar beliefs. They are far from stupid, but they take what is said by missionairies and put it into a literal context. Why? Because how else, without knowing the context are they to take it when they are told things like "love your god and he will love you back and protect you".

At the same time there is a culture in many parts of Africa that holds superstitions very close. I had an incident report from a highly educated member of staff (post grad qualified) that reported that the reason for the incident was that someone had put a curse.

 

it takes 2 seconds to learn how HIV is transmitted. They know how it happens, the know the devastation of the disease. They also know about condoms.

It is obviously you who thinks they are not bright enough to figure it out.

 

you are coming from a perspective of ignorance here.

it doesn't take much to learn a lot of things, but if what you have to teach people challenges long held assumptions that are common in any given population, its an uphill battle.

religion fits easily into the scheme of things in a society where superstition is strong.

science - not so much.

personally though, when I come to forums like this I see a lot of americans who don't seem bright enough to figure out stuff I take for granted.

 

I don't think its about being gutless.

I think its about being self serving ... and talking the talk is for the people at home, who want to believe that their country is among the good guys.

lols ... we give more in aid than the US does, but we fall well short of scandinavian countries, and there is no excuse considering the economic position we are in.

we pay lip service to all kinds of high ideals .... as long as it suits our own best interests.

and we backtrack if we think we are stepping on the US's toes ... because we care more about what the US thinks of us (because there is an advantage in that) than we do about Lao children's safety (because there is no advantage in that).

 

you prove nothing except that you are unaware of what some so called christians might do in developing nations.

on a no of occasions I have heard of withdrawal of aid and a group moving on to another region when people preferred to hang on to their original beliefs.

its a version of "tough love"

 

Any virus which has a high mutation rate is kind of like a bowl of fruit loops; all the pretty little colors makes it hard to cure, so knowing human nature a condom, marriage (keeping the fruit loops isolated), so forth is better than nothing.

 

Is there something wrong with you guys?

One of you is using UXO in Laos to bash Christians, because the Pope himself is apparently out ther burying the explosives like a Taliban militant?

The other is supporting that poster by bashing the US for not making Loatian UXO the number one priority. Because clearly this is the ONLY thing that the US should be doing and it has no other obligations or challenges facing it.

HOw about you guys offer a solution? How about you tell us what we should take money from and reallocate resources away from and then building the consensus to do so.

But is the only reason injustice exists in the world is for you to tsk tsk someone? WHo cares.

 

What does that have to do with bull dozing schools?

There are a lot of reasons that aid is withdrawn, and most of it comes to reductions in funding. Nothing more henious than that.

 

Nothing was mentioned about bulldozing schools. How many times do I have to repeat myself.

 

that's when Darwin steps up to the plate and takes a swing.

Funny how everybody is a genius in their own mind.

 

you mention Darwin.

evolution is what I am referring to.

there is so much evidence from a variety of sources to support evolutionary theory (and HIVAIDS even plays into this) but there are many posters on this forum who claim its not true.

global warming is another.

the amount of evidence to show that AGW is occuring is overwhelming and accepted by scientists who are familiar with not only climatology, but the majority of other disciplines ... but go to the environment forum here ....

 

well, ..... lets let Darwin get out his magic sickle and harvest the crop.
Let the sheaves fall where they may.

 

May i make a suggestion? Go and get a passport and get out of the US and see a little of the world. I often defend americans when people of other countries laugh and point at the way they have a total lack of appreciation of the rest of the world and the people in it. But, i now see why the laughing and pointing goes on.

 

Are you saying that the rest of the world is ignorant of how HIV is transmitted? That they have no idea what a condom is?

Sure, there are areas where ignorance reigns, but I have been in some of the poorest, roughest places in the world, and preachers (be they Christian, Muslim, Animist, Buddhist, etc.) all pretty much say the same thing about sexuality.

HIV-AIDS is a sexually transmitted disease, and there is a fool proof way of avoiding it - monogamous sex or abstinance.

That doesn't mean that there are not other forms and techniques to reduce the spread of disease, but the idea that people are unaware of condoms? The risks they take when having unprotected sex with prostitutes? Or that the church is the cause of this avoidance, rather than attitudes toward sex and 'feelings' that condoms reduce?

Perhaps you should go visit a few of these places yourself.

 

Not my responsibility to ensure their gene line gets propagated.
Old Charles would dictate that it was their responsibility.