Barr says he thinks spying occurred on 2016 Trump campaign

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  1. ibobbrob

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    You better hope that's all it amounts to.
     
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    No

    The Deep State is very real

    It exists in every department of government in DC

    But the worst abusers are in the IRS and intelligence services
     
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    Yeah, they should have ignored all those reports from european intell agencies who had "heard" that the russians had "dirt" on hilliary, that campaign members had meetings with known russian operatives in europe, and had videos of the going's on at the russian IRC.

    Nah totally unacceptable to even think that there was anything fishy going on and that the europeans were full of crap.

    In trumpland it seems ignorance and stupidity have created a teflon like alloy that enables trumpettes to defend or deflect absolutely everything that cast the least bit of shade at their dear leader. Bigly sad but then again, its is a recipe for regaining that elusive greatness they yearn to return to.
     
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    Yeah, and I suppose to believe the Elton John double, Barr, that he has "questions" about the origins of the "spying" on the Trump campaign. As if the Trump DoJ hasn't already taken a good look...
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Would you have preferred that the Mueller/Democrat investigation bring in hundreds of more witnesses, check out hundreds of thousands more documents and spend millions more dollars, until a crime is eventually discovered? How long do you feel the investigation should have continued?
     
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    Huh? Many in the Deep State have already been forced to leave, and there will be more.
     
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    Really??!?
     
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    Please explain how a resemblance to Elton John impacts his trustworthiness.
     
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    You mean European Intel agents like Christopher Steele who paid for a Russian disinformation dossier? Obviously if Mueller thought these reports had substance to them he would have indicated someone for colluding with Russians. The fact that he didn't means these #FakeNews reports were in fact #FakeNews, right? So why are you stuck on :censored: continuing with the #FakeNews #RussianCollusionHoax meme when it's been debunked?
    It was unacceptable to think that there was something fishy going on and Mueller should have closed the investigation on day one when he saw all the dirt on Trump's campaign were generated by the FBI, Fusion GPS and the Clinton campaign.
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    Total denial and ignorance of #SPYGATE, the most treasonous scandal by a sitting President against the Constitutional peaceful transition of power in the history of the nation. As you can see in the above tweet, the enlistment of foreign intelligence agencies to circumvent the Constitutional 4th Amendment protections against spying on Americans by Clapper and Brennan will be their undoing.

    :democrat: =:deadhorse:
     
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    You are trying to make fun of me

    But all you are doing is make yourself look uninformed
     
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    Trump can fire anyone he wishes and call them "Deep State," but that doesn't mean they are.
     
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    Just doing what Trump does. When he stops, so will I.

    Fat Neck Trump called pencil Schiff "pencil-neck."
     
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    These were not firings by Trump but from within the FBI itself. You're not familiar with what's been going on.
     
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    You spent too much time in the schoolyard.
     
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    All they have is ad homs, as we've seen, and Donald Trump makes them do it.
     
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    This proves they're "Deep State?" Egads.
     
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    One Deep State type to another. :rolleyes:
     
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    Err, how is that responsive to what I posted? Barr's "non-summary" specifically did NOT exonerate Trump, his use of his "charity" as a piggy bank to use other peoples' money to pay settlements and the myriad of other investigations swirling around him surely paint a picture of a scumbag who likely committed crimes and uses the WH to shield himself.

    The details hidden in the Mueller Report will very likely add to that depiction.
     
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    No, I am talking about america allies intelligence services, not a private contractor.

    Unacceptable that the American counter intelligence community should not investigate when not only did they know the trump campaign was lying thru its teeth about contacts with russians, but that there were campaign members, including Manafort who was already under investigation for being an illegal foreign agent. Then of course there was flynn, who was hired as NSA despite warnings from the outgoing administration AND the intell community.

    As for papadopolous, first he's a coffee boy and now his opinions means something. Consistently blowing in the wind.

    Total denial and complete ignorance of SPYGATE. Typical.

    the debunking was rather emphatic, so much so that it even has its own wiki page.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spygate_(conspiracy_theory_by_Donald_Trump)

    Not that I am at all surprised that you'd believe an wholly unsubstantiated accusation by your dear leader over actual facts and evidence. At least you are consistent.
     
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    What an irresponsible and ****ing stupid ass thing for Barr to say. He's a lawyer, and the AG, for ****sake. He knows that it's not "spying" when it's part of a valid counterintelligence investigation.

    How far up orange anus is Barr's noggin?
     
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    That is precisely what he is.

    A clown whose campaign has over 100 distinct meetings with Russians during the campaign, meets with them to "get dirt" on their opposition, and they lie their asses off over those meetings, some of them going to jail for it, means there's some serious wrongdoing.

    But you brush it off (like a true patriot! Yay!) because Bonespurs wasn't indicted for it.

    That's willfully avoiding reality. There will be a reckoning for it, too.
     
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    Their services were enlisted fraudulently by Clapper and Brennan later using Christopher Steele's Russian dossier and the FISA warrant issued on ex-campaign advisor Carter Page. Try not to conflate the sequence of events. It's really sad that you are defending this as I would not defend President Bush had he done this to incoming President Obama.

    Now you really are conflating the sequence of events. There was no collusion. There was no evidence of Manafort or anyone else in the Trump campaign being an agent of a foreign power. Flynn is a long time general with an amazing record. He also did not become a target until the transition. The counterintelligence investigation began with Carter Page. Was he charged? Why not? Because it was based on a phony allegation based on a Russian dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary.
    Poor George Papadopoulos. He went from being 007 agent of Russian collusion to coffee boy?

    We're gonna have to update that wiki page.
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    Sorry my friend, it was all reported in the MSM. WaPo, NYT, McClatchy, the Guardian...not exactly right wing propaganda outlets:

     
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    Indeed, but I do believe this needs some contextual framework. Right off we should note that reference to an "insurance policy" comes after Ms. Page seeks (and receives) assurances from her adulterous lover that there's no chance Trump could win. Nobody thought Trump could win, not Strzok and Page, Brennan, McCabe, Comey or anyone else involved, they all expected and had great certitude Hillary would be elected, the mainstream media told them so, they had surveys and polls, Hillary was scheduled to win by a landslide, the only uncertainty was how soon this would be announced.

    Evidently they were quite mistaken, this is important because it means that right up to the election of Trump, everyone in the intelligence community expected Hillary would reward them for their efforts and have dismissed any irregularities in obtaining whatever results. Fraudulent FISA warrants, absence of new evidence in their renewals, uncorroborated allegations in the dossier, bias of its author, absence of exonerating evidence of Page's work with the FBI when they sought those warrants, unlawful surveillance of Trump's campaign long before any semblance of concocted probable cause, the illegal deployment of numerous covert agents into Trump's campaign and a variety of plainly unlawful efforts to seize and use evidence, would all be brushed under the carpet -once Hillary was installed.

    She didn't prevail, they persisted, it was called obstruction, an exonerating report is due, then it makes sense to look into these abuses.
     
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    So you have nothing; same as Mueller.
     
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    It's all there but few leftists will want to watch their dreams being shattered.
     

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