Ben Carson just referred to slaves as 'immigrants'

Indeed what would our politicians do without Russia?

Lincoln also put an end to the popular fiction that the Founders supported slavery with his research in preparation for his Coopers Union address. That research undermined the fundamental Southern argument for the preservation of slavery, and the speech made Lincoln a viable candidate for the Republican nomination and the eventual Republican victory in the general election.

 

Forrest had a personal troop of black soldiers.

 

Yes, intelligent thinking human beings keep learning from their experiences in life and adjust their opinions accordingly.

 

True whackadoo territory.

Try this on for size:

The 13th Amendment, giving Freedom the slaves -- passed by Congress in January of 1865.



See that signature to the right? :::::::::::: > Abraham Lincoln.

Lincoln made the passage of the 13th Amendment a major plank in the 1864 election.

No President is required to sign an Amendment, in fact, none ever had.

He did though.

Also, too:



Sit on that one, Charlie.

 

Are those the ones he killed at Fort Pillow?

 

As the descendent of several Union soldiers, one who gave his right arm, I am vehemently opposed to anyone that would suggest reparations for slavery. Lincoln is one of my heroes. So is William Tecumseh Sherman.

 

I too am a history fan. History fans know that recolonization was voluntary.

 

If you never knew freedom, it is hard to deal with sometimes. Ask anyone that has spent most of their lives in prison.
It is not understandable that you and others remain bitter after generations of freedom. My great x2 grandpa lost his arm to fighting so that all men could be free. He was a Quaker, and freedom was the cause he fought for. I am not bitter. That was generations ago. I am just puzzled as to why so many blacks carry chips on their shoulders that blind them to the freedom and opportunity they now have. Point is, it didn't blind Dr. Ben Carson. Sounds like you still hang on to some generational bitterness.

 

We all agree that Lincoln wanted to eliminate slavery. He wanted to get rid of all of the black people in America and he couldn't do that if they remained slaves. So he had to eliminate slavery. The rebels helped him to do that when they started the Civil War by attacking Ft. Sumter.

In 1861 and 1862 the Union had passed a couple of Confiscations Acts that allowed the Union Forces to confiscate slaves through criminal court proceedings. The Emancipation Proclamation was an outgrowth of those earlier Acts and simply eliminated the need to get the court to rubber stamp the confiscations. But it didn't free any slaves held in the Northern States nor did it give any former slaves any legal rights.

Lincoln signed the 13th Amendment as a political act against John C. Fremont, who was threatening a third party run on an anti-slavery amendment.

So yes, Lincoln did want to free the slaves. He also wanted to deport all black people from America. He was killed before he could do it and he never saw the official end of slavery in the United States of America. Lincoln was by far the best President black people had ever had to live under up to that time. But he was going to deport all of them as soon as he had the chance to do so.

 

Nope.

 

The whole purpose of the Revolutionary War was so that the slavers like Washington & Jefferson could keep their slaves. If they had been alive during the Civil War they would have been Confederates.

 

You have been misinformed. The Revolutionary War started in Massachusetts and the issue was not slavery. Google Lexington, Concord, Breeds Hill ...

 

The Emancipation Proclamation immediately freed tens of thousands, promised to protect and maintain their freedom -- and also encouraged directly in the verbiage of that Proclamation, for slaves to "come on over" and fight for the Union cause.

And indeed near 200,000 Colored troops did, and fought gallantly for that cause.

Fremont's clumsily issued Proclamation (which earned him to be relieved of his command of the Department of the West) did have an effect on Lincoln, but it wasn't because of a threat of Fremont running against him in the next election - which was more than two years away.

How many times does this have to be explained? The Colonization plan was VOLUNTARY.

No former slaves would be relocated against their will.

 

For reference, a portion of the text of The Emancipation Proclamation again:

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"Now, therefore I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, by virtue of the power in me vested as Commander-in-Chief, of the Army and Navy of the United States in time of actual armed rebellion against the authority and government of the United States, and as a fit and necessary war measure for suppressing said rebellion, do, on this first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and in accordance with my purpose so to do publicly proclaimed for the full period of one hundred days, from the day first above mentioned, order and designate as the States and parts of States wherein the people thereof respectively, are this day in rebellion against the United States, the following, to wit:

Arkansas, Texas, Louisiana, (except the Parishes of St. Bernard, Plaquemines, Jefferson, St. John, St. Charles, St. James Ascension, Assumption, Terrebonne, Lafourche, St. Mary, St. Martin, and Orleans, including the City of New Orleans) Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, and Virginia, (except the forty-eight counties designated as West Virginia, and also the counties of Berkley, Accomac, Northampton, Elizabeth City, York, Princess Ann, and Norfolk, including the cities of Norfolk and Portsmouth[)], and which excepted parts, are for the present, left precisely as if this proclamation were not issued.

And by virtue of the power, and for the purpose aforesaid, I do order and declare that all persons held as slaves within said designated States, and parts of States, are, and henceforward shall be free;

and that the Executive government of the United States, including the military and naval authorities thereof, will recognize and maintain the freedom of said persons."

Emancipation Proclamation Text

 

So, tell us about Nathan Bedford Forrest's "personal troop of black soldiers."

 

Yeah. That Wyrd bit was pretty whack.

 

I love Civil War History and I appreciate you setting things straight. When ever you blog on the subject, it seems the "south will rise again" nutcakes come out of the woodwork. It is a very interesting subject when you just stick to the truth and try to be subjective.

 

It was probably what he was taught by a credentialed teacher.
When they bother to teach history at all now it is usually revisionist history.

 

Why is a brain surgeon not the head of HHS, isn't he more qualified than Price?

 

Exactly.

 

The newly formed republican party was the liberal party, Sally

The Confederate "States Rights" Southerners were by and large: Conservative.

Slaveowners / Confeds prided themselves on being Conservative, and that they referred to the Northerners as Communists, Socialists and licentious, free lovin' liberals.

To this day, The Southerners are by and large: Conservative. And still spout the same old garbage.

 

The DP has always been the party of extreme racist hate. When slavery was finally crushed through civil war the DP did not change its fundamental guiding racist philosophy. It did change its strategy for degrading and exploiting black Americans.

The DP governs the segregated cities in America where black American families, culture and lives have been sacrificed on the alter of institutional racism and racist policies imposed by the minions of the DP.

 

Do you understand how RULES and the TERMS OF SERVICE work?

 

Do you understand that YOU are the only one MAD here? I filled out my information when I joined and haven't changed a thing. I was approved. You have a personal beef with me for no reason. I have gotten many likes... is that going to make you mad too? You are going overboard with your criticism of me. For absolutely no reason. Now I feel harassed by you.