Best home defense weapon

Discussion in 'Firearms and Hunting' started by Think for myself, Aug 16, 2011.

  1. crank

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    Not according to the united state supreme court, nor the united states constitution. Rights are not issued and rationed to the public at large on the basis of need. If someone wishes to buy a particular firearm, any firearm currently for sale on the private market, their wanting it is all the legal justification that is necessary. Such is how things work in the united states. Such is how things have always worked in the united states. And such is how things will continue to work in the united states long after those such as yourself, myself, and everyone else involved in this discussion, is dead and gone.
     
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    I think in broader terms than just the US. No one on planet earth understands the American obsession with guns.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've never owned or fired one. Thanks for the tip. On the other hand my Catahoulas and myself held two wannabe intruders at bay with the help of a ruger 9mm. Pretty effective.....and they crapped their pants.
     
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    The best home defense weapon for your money is a flame thrower.

    They're legal in 48 of the 50 states and you can buy a Vietnam era one for 700.00 bucks.

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    That's because the United States of America came into being by using guns.

    The gun is part of America's history, customs and traditions.

    The gun is America's history.
     
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    The ignorance of the rest of the planet Earth isn't my problem. If they want to be easily herded sheep that's their choice.
     
  8. Xenamnes

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    Other countries, however, are indeed beginning to understand the matter better. Supposedly the influence of the united states is spreading.
     
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    The Constitution says it is.
     
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    I really don't believe that Americans are any more or less "obsessed" with guns than people who live where their ownership is heavily restricted.

    Most of my European friends who visit can't wait to use my target range & shoot firearms that they are not allowed to touch in their home country.

    I don't know if it's the novelty or what but lots of people around the world are very interested in firearms.
    I honestly believe that nationality has little to do with whether a person has an interest in firearms. I simply think that it varies from person to person.
     
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    The reason we have the right to keep and bear arms is because they can kill.
     
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    So, we should practice shoot and release hunting, eh?
     
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    I know a lot of people advocate for a shotgun for home defense and it might make sense for some situations. But, my experience is that when people think about home invasion scenarios, they think in terms where the good guys are behind the home defense gun and the bad guys are somewhere in front of it. They usually don’t think in terms of members of family being held in a hostage situation or where the bad guys are situated between family members. A shotgun may not be the best option in these situations.
    Just an aside, if you’ve a big home and think it’s been invaded, considering you live there knowing the layout, you have an advantage, but clearing a structure can be a dangerous thing if you aren’t trained and that is complicated by not having a plan where your family is involved and set to coordinate. And, what do you do when a bad guy has one of your kids hostage, demanding you disarm and surrender?... what are your odds?

    By the way, a general question, do you know the POA/POI of your weapon or weapons of choice at 7’, 10’, 20’, etc. .... well enough to handle a hostage situation? A partial view snap shot? Or, what of your ammo choice? It’s penetration potential, where innocents will be down range, or if you can penetrate concealment to hit a bad guy if necessary?

    Beyond the gun, there are a lot of questions, and those questions may be interdependent to weapon selection. Having multi layer security/preventative precautions is helpful... what works/what doesn’t. What do you do when things go bump in the night, coming home, entering/exiting your garage, etc?
     
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    Someone else playing with it;
     
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    If you train for the strengths and weaknesses of the system, a shotgun can be an excellent choice. "Firearms" of this type are basically the modern battle axe; they are devastating at close range but you need to understand the proper methods for manipulation, to say nothing of having the physical strength and fortitude to handle shooting it.
     
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    Dogs are gross.
     
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    A neighbor had his truck broken into all three of his outside dogs remained asleep didn't as much as make a whine.

    A friend of mine had what I consider an obnoxious dig that would jump on the door and bark continuously until it was opened after it would attempt to jump on the person at the door which many times resulted in me kicking it. I stopped by their home day to drop off an A/C unit I had repaired for them, knocked on the door not a sound, opened the overhead door and set the A/C inside still no barking. Turned the dog would not bark unless someone was at home.

    Very useless as any form of self protection and don't even get me started on how many children have been killed by family dogs using the kid as a toy.

    Dogs are not alarms unless highly trained which takes time and costs a lot of money.
     
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    They are also fun to shoot.
     
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    With Catahoula's they guard out of love for their owners. No training necessary/ I've seen those dogs intimidate and drive huge bull elk off my property yet my 3 year old grandson can hang on their neck and they just wag the tail.
     
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    My son bought one of those and is not too pleased, very hard to shoot from any position other from the hip and compared to a 500 the recoil is insane and if not held with a gorilla grip the safety will tear right through the skin between the thumb and forefinger.

    The 500 will do that too if not held tight, but it doesn't need to be held anywhere near as tightly.
     
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    Thanks for that, especially the part about tearing your skin on the safety. They don't mention that in the specs. ;-)
     
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    Look at the receiver and you will see the safety on the top just ahead of the rear grip, it has a stepped edge so it is easy to operate with a thumb, however the recoil can shove that safety right between your thumb and forefinger leaving you with a nice notch in the web of your hand.
     
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    I'm looking for something my Wife and I can both use if necessary, though I hope we never have to do so. Maybe a reliable Colt model 1911 in .45 acp.
     

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