Body camera videos show 13-year-old Adam Toledo put hands up before fatal police shooting in Chicago

I see that you're still peddling fake news

 

And from the perspective of the police officer he could not see the gun being tossed or that it was no longer in his hand when the criminal turns towards him while raising his hand from that hidden angle all in that split second. The officer does not have to wait to be fired on first.

The criminal gang member caused his own.

 

No, the gun was not edited out, at the moment the kid was shot he was unarmed and surrendering to the officer. That is not an edit, that is what actually happened

If that was the officer's assumption, it was clearly a mistake, because the kid was not armed, he was unarmed and had his hands up. There's just no rational argument to be made to be made that the officer did not make a mistake in killing that kid. He made a very critical and costly mistake

Again, not an edit, the kid was in fact unarmed and surrendering to the officer at the moment he was shot. No one is doubting that the kid was previously armed, but at the moment he was shot he was unarmed, the weapon was out of his reach, and he had his hands up. This was clearly not a moment in which the kid should have been shot

If the officer thought the kid was still armed, and was raising his hand above his head for any other reason than to surrender, he was clearly wrong. The officer gave 3 different commands to the kid as he was being chased. He commanded him to stop.. and the kid stopped running.. he commanded him to drop his weapon.. and the kid dropped his weapon... he commanded him to show him his hands.. and the kid put his hands up

Still, the kid was shot dead.. clearly it was not the right decision for the officer to fire his weapon.

 

Sometimes even with good parents in those areas of the cities doesn't work. Probably had a good mother but the dad left years ago. Or, was a gang banger himself. Middle School is a difficult time.

 

Another angle and the kid still had the gun. Doesn't matter. The kid is at fault.

 

and you're ignoring that fact that according to the police report itself, it was not the 13 year old kid who had fired a weapon at a passing car, but a completely different individual who was 21 years of age. It should also be noted that the officer who caught the 21 year old had no issue apprehending him alive. Yet, somehow it was the kid who was shot dead

 

Nonsense.

This is big news in the Chicago area, and the overwhelming consensus is that it was justified.

He was running down a dark alley clearly with a gun, cop in chase. He tosses the gun over a fence and spins around throwing his hands in the air which very clearly could have been seen as an attack with a weapon he was carrying seconds before.

We have a thirteen year old kid, out at 2:30 in the morning, with a gun, running from police and the first thing people on this forum do is criticize the cop.

Pfft. That's stupid. Seriously. Stupid.

 

They always do thus BS. I would bet that picture is years old. You can find pictures of this kid from other social media throwing gang signs with guns in his pictures.

 

Maybe because he had a gun in his hand mere seconds before?

 

Yes it was. Prior to being shot he was holding a gun, it was clearly visible, CBS edited it out. That's a testable fact, though you are certainly free to deny it.

That's not the question he will be judged on. Yes, after the fact we all know this. The officer did not have the benefit of hindsight. The officer was making real time decisions in a rapidly changing situation. A jury will hear the facts, weigh the evidence, and if that's the officer's defense, determine if the officiers fear of death or grave physical harm was a reasonable one that justified the application of deadly force. And the jury will see the real video, not this evil edit that CBS news dropped on the public to inflame riots, racial division and mayhem.

No one says otherwise. The scene has now been searched and the young man had no deadly weapon within reach at the time. Th question will be the officer's state of mind at the time he used deadly force. But, while we are on the topic, what are your thoughts on the officer that shot and killed the trespasser in the riot who not only had her hands up, but clasped to the sides of a window as she was using her hands to pull herself up and through a window.? If it was obviously a mistaken use of force when this young man had his hands in the air, shortly after being observed holding a firearm, what would your verdict be if this young man was not only never seen in possession of a firearm, but was also in the process of doing a pull up at the time? Can't you direct me to your posts of self-righteous indignation that the capitol police person will not be charged?

You simply are not arguing honestly. The removal of the firearm from the clip is most certainly an edit.

 

Where has that been proven?

I haven't seen that reported. In fact, last I heard both were shooting at cars.

At a minimum, he was still with the 21 year old, still had a gun, and still ran down a dark alley

 

Nope. More false narrative. Actually the mother reported he kid missing a couple of nights earlier because he was on the streets all hours of the night with gang members. She cancelled the missing person when he returned home. That night, he left again at 2:30 in the morning.

We are not going to play this game that the cops shot some unarmed child who was an honor roll student nonsense.

 

A complete misrepresentation devoid of any facts.

He wasn't just standing there. He was running away with a gun in his hand down a dark alley. As soon as he pitched the gun, he spun around raising his hands toward the cop. Mere fractions of a second existed for the cop to determine if he was raising the gun he just saw towards the officer.

I realize these are inconvenient facts for the anti-cop crowd.

 

Again. Not true.

Chicago has sensors that detect gum shots and are able to triangulation then location down to very small radius.

The police were on scene MINUTES, like two, at the exact location reported by technology and found the two gang members with guns.


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Alright, show me the edit then, show me where they edited the gun from the footage

 

According the the police report, it was one of them, and that was the 21 year old. Also, the 13 year old did not have a gun when he was shot, he was complying with officer's commands to drop his weapon and show him his hands

 

Oh, the parents come out of the woodwork when they smell a big financial windfall.

 

Sounds like lawyer talk semantics nonsense.

When fractions of a second make the difference between life and death, arm chair quarterbacks demand hours.

 

I would love to see some of you out on the job in Englewood and Austin..

 

It was a criminal gang shooting and those inner cities gangs are no better than those in these African countries where the rule the streets.

 

He had gun residue powder on his hand and THEY were shooting at passing cars and HE turned towards the police after having run away with the gun in his hand and hiding it as he dropped so the police could not see him drop and then turned towards the police while raising the gun hand.

 

The officers had not seen him drop the weapon as he turned and raised the gun hand towards them, they do not have to wait until they are fired at.

 

Absolute nonsense.

He literally dropped the gun in fractions of a second before spinning towards the cop and bringing his hands up, which could also be the firing position which is when the cop fired.

 

And note he is turned to block the officers from seeing him try to dispose of the weapon they had seen .

 

After running away with a gun in his hand and hiding the gun behind his back as he turned towards cops.

I'm starting to think your just trolling this board. Nobody can be this sense.