Breaking: Court Hands Trump Win in Sanctuary City Grants

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  1. Paul7

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    Are you OK with the Lenin statue in Seattle?
     
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    Federal government has been doing it for decades.
     
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    Round up guns, or do without federal funds. Enforce federal environmental legislation, or sing for your supper....

    Rather than set a terrible precedent, the Feds should do their own enforcement.
     
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    No. Lenin was a mass murderer.
     
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    No, they're just not enforcing federal law.
     
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    Get a clue. The activist judge is the one siding with Trump and against states' rights.
     
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    Kinda like how that made Lincoln an "activist".
     
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    I just did. Your claim about judges is a fraud.
    "Tons" on Breitbart and Fox News? :rolleyes:
    :roflol:
     
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    Going back before 1861.
     
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    Unconstitutional.

    I think some federal funding comes with such strings.

    It's an existing precedent.
     
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    States have in many cases gone along with the Feds for political reasons when they could have fought them successfully in court.
     
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    No, not necessarily a legal precedent. Political precedent? Yes.
     
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    States have never had the right to secede.

    Once a territory becomes a state, they're subject to Article VI, Clause 2:

    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.​

    There's no provision in the Constitution for seceding.
     
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    There's a huge difference between refusal to do the Fed's job and actively preventing the Feds from doing their job.

    Sanctuary cities are the latter; I have no issues with cities that do the former.
     
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    The 2nd amendment? Yea that thing stops that.
     
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    Well when you have the states obstructing said enforcement, then you have a major problem.
     
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    Agreed. From what I understand, most of the cities are careful not to interfere with anyone enforcing federal law.
    If they interfere with the enforcement of federal laws, they should be prosecuted. Otherwise, we should enforce federal laws with federal employees.
     
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    Yes, but we have judges and law enforcement actively releasing prisoners early so they can avoid the Fed. This is why they get called sanctuary cities. In my opinion, passively ignoring illegal immigrants is a world apart from actively assisting illegal immigrants from avoiding the Fed.
     
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    No, it doesn't stop the feds. They can ban particular weapons and by the reasoning of the types who want to go after sanctuary cities, they should be able to coerce a state to round up firearms.
     
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    Been legal all the decades it has been in use, it was challenged during the 55 mph speed limit days and courts maintained it. Same with the 21 year old drinking age.
     
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    They go along for the money and the feds can withhold it they don't comply.
     
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    well the SCOUS says otherwise so there is that.
     
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