Building collapse abortion analogy

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  1. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Suppose this socialist state is being stretched thin and they are having trouble providing enough free resources for everyone. Would you kill the man then?
     
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    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think I answered all your questions. Do you mean your scenario you posed?
    Yes, I might abort then but would be extremely reluctant to do so, and the probabilities would really have to weigh in the favor of aborting her, since my ethical values are not based entirely on utilitarian approaches.
    However, yes, if you wanted to abort your wife in that situation I wouldn't stop you.
     
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    Absolutely not I would turf out the government as the UK is a very rich country.
     
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    Yes.
     
  5. kazenatsu

    kazenatsu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I do wonder what Pro-Choice feminists would think about performing an Abortion on an unconscious woman who can't give her consent though.
     
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    RiaRaeb Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The same as anyone would say about performing any medical procedure without the other person being able to give consent, you seek the opinion of the nearest and dearest and if that is not possible then you follow ethical guidelines, doctors face these choices every day poor buggers.
     
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    I wonder if women follow ethical guidelines when they get abortions.

    I suppose someone is going to tell me that's none of my responsibility.
     
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    I wonder if YOU follow ethical guidelines...it's just as likely as any other human would follow ethical guidelines....why do you think women should act differently than any other human?

    Oh, that's right they aren't really human to Anti-Choicers, just property that SOMEBODY OWNS but they can't ever SAY just WHO OWNS THEM...
     
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    Yes as in the US when thanks to thousands of well paid lobbyists the top half of a percent have more networth then the rest of us all together?

    No we can not afford to offer aid or as you would say free stuff to the lower one half of one percent as god help us if we cut into the top one half percent ability to live high on the rest of us.
     
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    We can see in other countries abortion isn't going to end even if inequality is dealt with.
     
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    You attach a note to a cute little panda bear and send it out through the small opening.
     
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    Or maybe you can just reach out the opening and flag down help. Looking at how far you can reach for a worthless point, you should be able to find help several blocks away!!!!
     
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    Let me give you the only true analysis.

    It is not abortion at all. It is the mind of the Democrat.

    To get my idea, say we are outside the prison walls supporting freedom. We however do not support freedom for the convicted. They will be paying for their crimes.

    Democrats want freedom for the criminals. We only want freedom for the just people.

    Watch what Gavin Newsom did in CA for a true example.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...s-death-penalty-i-couldnt-sleep-idUSKCN1QU2R8

    To us, there is a crime associated to Abortion. To them no big deal. They think the way the Nazis thought about things like that.
     
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    A lot of reasons for the Democrats failure to govern is they reason totally wrong.

    They have this imagination that the successful block the rest of us from being successful.

    But blaming the rich for what we fail to do is wrong. Democrats will never admit that.
     
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    When the rich get to made the tax laws by way of an army of lobbyists we are turning away from how wealth is share in western nations into a model that more match a south american dictatorship.

    Sorry but a nation where a tiny tiny percent of the total population have half of the total networth can not exist as a free society for long.
     
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    Progressives would keep on having abortions more than ever, even if they got total complete wealth equality.

    Yes, it may be one of the arguments they're using, but it's obviously not the primary reason. What it's really about is money. Well off middle class women in NYC get abortions all the time in furtherance of their careers, to make even more money.
     
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    Everything is about money...….and having an abortion rather than ruining your career is a wise move :)
     
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    At least some pro-choicers are upfront about their reasons.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Everything is about money...….and having an abortion rather than ruining your career is a wise move :)


    Why wouldn't they be?



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    and Pro-Choicers aren't the only ones who have abortions...

    ...and MOST Anti-Choicers are NOT up front about why they are against abortion...



    What does any of this have to do with the OP??? Are you running and ducking from that ridiculous OP ?
     
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    Let me give you the only true analysis.

    It is not abortion at all. It is the mind of the Republican

    To get my idea, say we are outside the prison walls supporting freedom. We however do not support freedom for the convicted. They will be paying for their crimes and NOT being PARDONED.

    Republicans want freedom for the criminals( Trump, Kuchner, Manafort, Cohen, college cheaters.) We only want freedom for the just people.



    To us, there is a crime associated with taking away one's right to their own body as Republicans want to do...it's called slavery


    . To them no big deal because it's only women's rights. They think the way the Nazis thought about things like that.....
     
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    :) What mad ramblings of the Incoherent-in-Chief !


    Note how Anti-Choicers can ALWAYS find someone THEY don't mind aborting....
     
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    YUPPERS When they BUY their brain dead kid's way into college they eliminate a position that someone else EARNED.




    Worshipping the Wealthy as God is really wrong.....and insisting they never do anything wrong is worshipping them as gods..



    Republicans will never admit that. The brown boot is so firmly on their throat they can't speak, the Wealthy have them right where they want them , cowering and afraid.
     
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    Oh, hey lots of fog yesterday...rather pretty for a change and spring is on the way..
     
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    You couldn't address post 45 ??? Why not, are you speechless?
     
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    Canada geese are back in the hundreds!!

    Let's turn this into the "Signs of Spring" thread since any topic goes!
     
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