FoxHastings said: ↑ NO, the right to one's own body does NOT conflict with anyone else. I stopped reading at " I was married twice. Wife one was pregnant for 9 months out of our 13 year marriage""...the start of the oft repeated , deadly boring, completely meaningless story of your life. That has NOTHING to do with the topic or anything else related to abortion or women's right to their own bodies.....OR the post of mine you quoted... Nor did you refute my statement : ""the right to one's own body does NOT conflict with anyone else.""
You have had "the right to one's own body" explained....you've been in here long enough...so quit pretending you don't know what it means....it IS a very SIMPLE concept. I am NOT only referring to abortion, I am stating that everyone has the right to their own body.
I will give you the benefit of being 100% right. Now the only question is how you would you enforce laws that failed long before the internet, home pregnancy tests, and abortion drugs.
You are incorrect. Laws are enforced while suggestions/advice are not. The question was how you would enforce abortion laws. Here are some factors: Abortion drugs Internet Home pregnancy tests Medical tourism
You misunderstood what i said is all. I agree that suggestions are not enforced. I did not say those were enforced. The abortion done by the hand of "professionals" can't be stopped so long as they will perform an illegal act and in cases abortions are not legal.
So you are admitting that they cannot be enforced and have zero value to society?Then why have them in the first place?
I did not say that either. But as with all laws, only the willing will obey laws. The unwilling ignore said laws. What Bernie Madoff did was illegal. But he kept doing it until captured, by cops.
WTF was there to learn from "Another Story of Someone's Life" ? Why can't YOU learn this FACT: That has NOTHING to do with the topic or anything else related to abortion or women's right to their own bodies.....OR the post of mine you quoted... Nor did you refute my statement : ""the right to one's own body does NOT conflict with anyone else.""
You have not refuted my statement. I had never set forth to refute that which you said above in quotes. In my view, my commentary is always worth reading. But you need not worry since you told all of us you did not read my commentary thus lost a very valuable lesson.
I think yes. I see why they should be enforced. Say, if you ever get the chance to talk to a person whose mom was close to the abortion, then she changed her mind, her child was adopted and lived a wonderful life, it could change your heart. Abortion reminds me of a person robbing the bank. Then enter to rob the bank persuaded they are doing it for good. Good for them or others, but they will not tell you it is bad. And they spend the cash and imagine they just got a pay day like you might have got at a job. To them it is their job. To rob banks is wonderful to them. Abortion defenders see abortion that way. At least I am persuaded by their argument this is how they see this. The lost life is of no consequence to them. It is just how it is. We have this one dood talking about her body. Her body is not what is being aborted. She got to live and her mom never sentenced her to death.
Try to stay focused. We are not talking about dentistry or bank robbery. You can be persuaded all you want, that doesn't mean that abortion laws would make a difference or benefit society. Now all you have to do is show how abortion laws would be enforced.
I have busted my ass being nice to you. Do not give me orders. Doctors who violate laws do find themselves in deep trouble and in dire need of a lawyer to represent them. The bank robbery story had valuable lessons. Such as no matter the law, people do violate laws.
Im sorry that being nice doesn't come natural for you. I did not ask you to be nice; I asked a simple question and you are dodging it. Did you not think your position through?
FoxHastings said: ↑ What was that "valuable lesson" ? That you had lots of wives and kids? So what? "Clearly not" what? You claim a "valuable lesson" but can't say what it is ??
I believe I like children. I doubt you like children. I married women that also liked them. My last more than the first wife.
What was that "valuable lesson" ? That you had lots of wives and kids? So what? "Clearly not" what? You claim a "valuable lesson" but can't say what it is ?? THAT'S your "valuable lesson" ? That you believe you like children? Why would you illogically claim that I don't like children?
The problem is you're trying to pick when they come along, after they've already come along. The pro-choice position actually has little to do with the woman's body. The real reason can be clearly seen in the organization's name "Planned Parenthood". The woman wants the child four years from now, not now. They'd like to "Plan" these children. LIFE doesn't always work like that.
FoxHastings said: ↑ Why would you illogically claim that I don't like children? OHMYGAWD, it's the Mad Hatter's Tea party! WTF is THAT supposed to mean??? …""trying to pick when they come along, after they've already come along""" What utter nonsensical drivel!! Pro-Choice is all and ONLY about the woman retaining the right to her own body...it's ALL and ONLY about women and their bodies... DUH YA....you make it sound like planning on when to have children is a bad thing!!! WTF??? It's the smart thing...the smart thing,so YOU don't like it ? No, life doesn't always go as planned. SO WHAT? Ever notice how many "So what?" s you get? That's because you really need a POINT. I ask : ""Why would you illogically claim that I don't like children?"" And an Anti-Choicer gives me another load of illogical crap...
Whats to defend ? It is a mindless analogy. The dude in your analogy is a living human. Prove that a zygote is a "living human" such that your analogy is not logical fallacy on steroids.
