Can I just ask the most basic question of our Moon Hoaxer friends?

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    I am as positive as I can be that there is no actual point in further engaging with this delusional troll. He makes claims that "once people have seen it", they will too be drawn into the web of stupid, yet when newcomers chime in with their views disputing this, he simply ignores them or claims they are shills or plants.

    Not one person has come to his threads here, his moronic basketball forum thread or any of his other forum spammed threads and actually agreed with him. It is slightly disturbing that there are people like this on the internet, who lack any integrity, logic, critical thinking skills or cogent ability at any level. I don't know which is better, contempt or pity.

    Every single thing he has ever typed, taken apart on my blog and as always, unanswered by him :-

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

    This troll measures a person's credibility by their inability to believe in another idiotic conspiracy theory, notably one that derives from a person who believes in Apollo! He uses people like Chomsky to support one aspect of his idiocy, whilst claiming he has been got at to dismiss where Chomsky dismisses things like 911.

    It is just pathetic that this person claims he is a truth seeker, there are so many things wrong with his worldview it is quite appalling.
     
  2. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    And when you look at the body of evidence, the need for secrecy, reliance on unknown technology it actually would have been easier to just go to the Moon, than to try and fake it. And an answer I never seem to be able to get - Why did Alexi Leonov believe the Americans landed on the Moon, the one man on the planet who would absolutely know it was faked, believes it is real
     
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  3. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    This statement doesn't make the mountain of hoax proof go away.

    Space radiation is probably why they had to fake it. Here's some stuff on that.

    http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
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    There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
    Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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    two sets of radiation data
    http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldoglebeautaketooooo/id82.html
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    To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
    OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
    to
    disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
    unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
    really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
    Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
    one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
    likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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    http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm
    http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInf...Challenge.html
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/in...9659&hl=apollo

    These two are important
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    http://www.buzzcreek.com/grade-a/MOON/articles1.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rotplZn0g
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKB5u_VTt6M
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcytzf7PkRA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DhY1NvmIc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnckudD9oa8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTzo3G_hvo
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFiIR7hA1rM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toI1Xw9paW4
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xlKooAbKpM
    (23 parts)

    A lot of people say things they don't believe because they're part of the conspiracy, or they're afraid to say what they really think.

    Look what happened to these people.
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU

    There's a list of people who believe it was a hoax here.
    http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax
     
  4. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    *Eyeroll* more youboob lunacy,half truths,misrepresentations and outright lies...

    ,There are 7 men left alive to tell us what it was like to walk on the moon..and I believe THEM

    Moon hoaxers always have an out....people are either paid off or too scared to tell what they supposedly know,or they're 'part of it'
     
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    All debunked. If you think the landings were faked, after having every argument you've made destroyed, you're an idiot
     
  6. Scott

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    I've never seen it debunked. I've only seen people try to obfuscate it and then wrongly consider it to have been debunked.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=190138&page=46
    (as of now this link works)

    Those flag anomalies are simply too clear to obfuscate. Once people have seen them, there's really nothing you pro-Apollo posters can do to make them think the moon missions were real. The truth always prevails in the end.
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    And you like your brethren seem blissfully unaware that NASA and the astronauts where aware of the danger. Even 45 years later all the astronauts involved in the missions have an annual full NASA medical workup looking for signs of damage and sickness. As much as it chokes you - the science of the Apollo missions still goes on
     
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    Correct. Idiots often claim they have never seen this, after having presented to them hundreds of times. A case in point is where delusional spammers claim flat pieces of ice/debris are bubbles.

    Exactly. Every argument he has ever made debunked and not replied to:-

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

    [video=youtube;Cn41RM-x4wA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn41RM-x4wA[/video]
     
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    Its s ahame that I cant find those photos of the WESTBORO "BAPTIST" "CHURCH" people holding "Moon Landing was a Hoax" Placards
     
  10. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    LOL - because we all know God hates the moon :)
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sure it has something to do with radical conservatives and their natural hatred of Kennedy and Russians. Probably something like, "That damned Kennedy faked the moon landing so that the US could beat the damned commies to the moon."
     
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    ahahaha YES Indeed!
     
  13. rahl

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    Yes, you seen it all debunked. If you think the landings were faked, you're an idiot
     
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    Link no longer available.


    taken out of context. he was talking about LONG TERM trips

    website no longer exists
    Or the far more likely, Rene ASSUMED there are two sets of data because what was given to him didn't fit his predefined conclusions. He ASSUMED they were lying to him without any proof that they were. The funny part is this says more about YOU spamming this story repeatedly than it does about Rene.


    Hey a link that finally works! Unfortunately it makes the fallacious assumption that all solar flares are aimed toward us (they're not, space is three-dimensional after all) and the further fallacious claim that the 15 flares per day that emit "detectable" x-rays are automatically heavy enough to worry about at all making the logical fallacy of assuming that what one sources considers a "low energy flare" is the same as the 15 per day that are "detectable".
    link doesn't work due to faulty copy/past. you'd think after your years of spamming various forums with nothing but copy/paste that you'd learn how to do it correctly.
    link doesn't work due to faulty copy/past. you'd think after your years of spamming various forums with nothing but copy/paste that you'd learn how to do it correctly.


    hilarious! Keep up the humor!
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    Nonsense...moon hoaxers come both liberal and conservative
     
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    Pardy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That may be, but every moon hoaxer I've interacted with has been a conservative.
     
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    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    You must not interact with many then,or you have a mile wide bias against conservatives that colors everything in your life.
     
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    There is no hoax proof - there is just abject stupidity, stubbornness, repetitive spam and an extremely sad obsessive troll:-

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/

    [video=youtube;LYLwKqPn-YU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYLwKqPn-YU[/video]
     
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    What viewers? None are agreeing with you troll!

    My reply to the troll

    See if anybody can find where he answered the questions posed of him.
     
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    How very telling that that is the only part you responded to and you STILL couldn't resist copy/pasting more spam.
     
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    Note that one of the "sources" he cites is a turd who wants us to think that Auschwitz would have been a nice tourist destination had there not been a food shortage.
     
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    If you think the landings were faked you're an idiot

    - - - Updated - - -

    We've looked at the info. You are wrong. They weren't faked
     
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