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Can I just ask the most basic question of our Moon Hoaxer friends?

Discussion in 'Moon Landing' started by Gorn Captain, Sep 12, 2013.

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  1. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

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    leftysergeant, Oct 1, 2013
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  2. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't there so I can't be sure about what happened but I don't blindly accept the official version and the revisionists make a good case. Have you even watched any of those documentaries?

    http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=321844&page=2&p=1063132923#post1063132923

    I read revisionist history but I don't take it as fact and I certainly don't take the official American version of anything as fact.

    Have you looked at any of this?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mA0kk29DBA
    "Hitler's War - What the Historians Neglect to Mention" (YouTube)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtpHHQUtaeM
    "Hitler Saved Europe From Stalin"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYSy80WlmWY
    "Who Started World War II? by Viktor Suvorov"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Db_5F7uxt4
    "Churchill's War"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwp7tVZuXKM
    "David Irving - The Faking of Adolf Hitler for History"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDDTmElixdM
    "Mark Weber speaks on Hitler's Place in History"

    http://www.youtube.com/results?sear...0.0.0.0.62.62.1.1.0...0.0...1ac.1.JuwZT8siAAQ

    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=+Adolf+Hitler:+Explains+Reasons+For+Invading+Poland.+

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVgIJSOrKeA
    "Adolf Hitler - The greatest story Never told (Full 6 hours Documentary)"


    All of the above seems pretty plausible. I don't take it as fact but I don't rule it out either. If the government can lie to us about why we intervene in third world countries, it can lie to us about history.
    http://www.fas.org/man/smedley.htm




    Why is the screen bouncing up and down making it difficult for me to post? Does this happen to anybody else?
     
    Scott, Oct 1, 2013
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  3. leftysergeant

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    The official histories are quite consistent with what Schickelgruber wrote in his silly book. In his view, Jews were sub-human and the black soil of the Ukraine was supposed to be feeding Germans.

    Screw the worthless blob of wasted amino acids. He was a thief and a murderer.
     
    leftysergeant, Oct 1, 2013
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    The hoaxers are trying to destabilize the government by convincing us that everything the government says is a lie just like the 9/11 crazies.

    It is an up-dated version of the Big Lie. They learned well from their Nazi mentors. Whether all of them are, themselves, Nazis, is of no relevance. They serve the same role in the RaHoWa, whether as true believers or useful idiots.
     
    leftysergeant, Oct 1, 2013
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  5. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    Probably best not to masturbate while trying to reply to this forum
     
    Wizard From Oz, Oct 1, 2013
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  6. Scott

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    Scott, Oct 2, 2013
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  7. leftysergeant

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    leftysergeant, Oct 6, 2013
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  8. Scott

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    You're sidestepping the issue.

    This was said a few posts back.
    My post was a rebuttal to that. Now I'm waiting for a counter-rebuttal. You seem to be trying to change the subject.
     
    Scott, Oct 7, 2013
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  9. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    (facepalm)
     
    LoneStrSt8, Oct 7, 2013
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    WHAT?

    A distraction?

    Sorry, the nights news that night led with the war.....the moon landing came later.

    The lead behind the moon landing the next day was the war.

    I was there. I was a newsman.

    What you are suggesting is that with the entire world watching, including the USSR and China, LOOKING for ONE IOTA of discrepancy, the US pulled off the world's greatest hoax....

    That this was done by a presidential administration that could not keep the lid on a third rate burglary...that had enough juice to fool and entire planet, but could not find its way out of the Watergate mess, three YEARS after they had pulled off this amazing feat.

    You know, if that's true, Nixon will rise from the dead pretty soon now and give Obama a good talking to, and get him to go to the moon too...and then they can both attack the Nazi military base that's been hidden on the dark side since 1945 mining Helium 3 and readying for an attack on Earth.
     
    FearandLoathing, Oct 7, 2013
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  11. danielpalos

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    Maybe we can ask an observatory with a good view of the moon, to simply take a picture of the equipment and stuff the astronauts left behind.
     
    danielpalos, Oct 7, 2013
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  12. LoneStrSt8

    LoneStrSt8 New Member Past Donor

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    So far,NONE of them are 'that good'
     
    LoneStrSt8, Oct 7, 2013
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  13. danielpalos

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    What about a satellite that may be in a closer orbit?
     
    danielpalos, Oct 7, 2013
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  14. Scott

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    In post #54 this was said.
    I gave this rubuttal in post #56.
    I'm still waiting for a counter-rebuttal.
     
    Scott, Oct 8, 2013
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  15. danielpalos

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    I believe it can't be a hoax, or the former Soviets would have made fun of us.
     
    danielpalos, Oct 8, 2013
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  16. leftysergeant

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    How is what a man said before Goddard built his first rocket relevant to space exploration?
     
    leftysergeant, Oct 10, 2013
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  17. Wizard From Oz

    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    The LRO mission has photographed Apollo 11, 12 and 14 so far

    http://www.space.com/16798-american-flags-moon-apollo-photos.html

    The best photos are at NASA but they are currently closed for business right now :(

    - - - Updated - - -

    Indeed, and Sergio Leonov who was to be the Russian Neil Armstrong has never doubted for a second the Apollo landings were real. And if anyone on this planet would know, it was him
     
    Wizard From Oz, Oct 10, 2013
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  18. Scott

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    Leftysergeant still hasn't given a counter-rebuttal to my rebuttal to his statement. What do the rest of you pro-Apollo posters think of that?

    Pictures are fakable so they don't prove anything.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRE7grId3sI
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKj5fckUX-c
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qc2kijG8YdY

    They also don't make the mountain of hoax proof go away. Here's a link to some of it.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487
    spurstalk (dot) com/forums/showthread (dot) php?t=144487
     
    Scott, Oct 10, 2013
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    Once again,you have NO proof the pictures were 'faked',nor have you shown how they are 'fakeable', scott/cosmored/fatfreddy88/david c

    And there is NOT a mountain of proof of a hoax,just your old,tired lies on a basketball forum
     
    LoneStrSt8, Oct 10, 2013
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    leftysergeant New Member

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    Jarrah White is an idiot. Too much to deal with in this format. Other people have dealt with him better than I can.
     
    leftysergeant, Oct 10, 2013
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    maybe the private sector can sell tickets to skeptics.
     
    danielpalos, Oct 10, 2013
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  22. Scott

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    I guess I'll have to keep reposting post #64 until leftysergeant answers.

     
    Scott, Oct 11, 2013
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    Butler has sod all to do with the topic.
     
    leftysergeant, Oct 11, 2013
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    The issue of whether the government lies to the people is very relevant to the Apollo issue. If we see that the government lies to the people on a regular basis, the argument that the government wouldn't tell such a big lie has no merit. Judging from your posts, you seemed to have the opinion that the government doesn't lie to the people very much. I posted an example of what I thought was a Marine General contradicting the official government version of something. I think what that General said was the truth and what the government said was a lie. What do you think?
     
    Scott, Oct 13, 2013
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    You off-topic. You know only that, on occasion, government inserts a flase meme here and there. Thery cannot get to all of the main-stream media. That would take far too many agents to keep it a secret.

    You do not get away with pointing me to a manure pile in the middle of a feed lot and telling me that there is a lump of unicorn poo somewhere inside of it. You shall have to bring up a concrete bit of evidence.

    So far, you have offered us sod all.
     
    leftysergeant, Oct 14, 2013
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