CDC admits the jabs made hospitalizations worse!

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  1. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    That's pure deception. You doctored the image omitting data that disproved your own batshit claim.

    On top of this, you accused ME of doctoring the image YOU linked to in post 1, needless to say you have not withdrawn that blundering accusation.

    We can't have his evaded screw up disappearing can we! Folks - read post #43
     
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    Hilarious. You didn't watch it at all. She shows how the various medical outlets poke fun at his antics. There are links under the video showing how his claims are total horseshit. As expected, no counter evidence will ever suffice.

    Luckily fence sitters who watch the video will see the foolish snake-oil salesman, getting his ass kicked - post #62
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    Yes it's purely deceptive to pretend that it didn't go negative!

    Busted again!
     
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    Well folks, it appears that no amount of ass kicking will suffice. Quite obviously, the OP is cherry picked deception. It deliberately omits the two batches covering the significant parts of the pandemic that are MASSIVELY POSITIVE, whilst continuing to claim the later vaccine is the only consideration. He also continues to fail to withdraw his erroneous and foot-shooting accusation of doctoring that clearly he is guilty of.
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    The op is bang on target!
    The CDC refused to admit the negative results.
    Now that everybody made their money and the US iron curtain is starting to rust away now they admit the negative effects.
    The op is 100% correct the quoted post is typical misinformation / misrepresentation seen by proxers because it does not acknowledge the fact that the CDC does now in fact acknowledge the negative impact the covid vaccine had.

    The above post also admits that the negative now exists.
     
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    What crazy bullshit. They refused to "admit" negative results by publishing the damn things?

    Answer absurd statement.
    As everyone can see, the OP is completely deceptive and deliberately so.

    Never denied! Did you look at the report to determine why? When are YOU going to admit the bulk 2 vaccines were largely positive!?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which view did I not support ?
     
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    The jab does not shut down the immune system .. if that were the case all jabbed people would be dead already. What it does is mess with the body's natural process .. in a number of ways .. some of which are detrimental to human health .. which we could say is true for all vaccines .. but this one by different mechanisms .. a much higher risk of harm from other vaccines .. without appearing to do anything beneficial to any but the severely immune compromised .. for a virus that is less harmful than the average flue for the average healthy folks .. and even average unhealthy folks... you had to be near death in general to go from Covid .. as is the case for those near end of life ..

    So for a normal healthy person the Jab has a very high risk of harm for no discernable benefit. .. risking harm to yourself for nothing.
     
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    Whatever makes you think that your useless bare-assertion opinion is actually a fact.
    When are we going to get an answer to this post properly!?
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    as soon as someone articulates and posts where the data came from otherwise......never.

    Properly requires knowledge of the data source.
     
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    It turns off or severely decreases Tcell surveillance.
     
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    It is from Statista, as indicated on the link you have been given. Do try not to dismiss it as a legitimate source. I have included the sources for their input data on the right! (unlike you when you have used Statista yourself!)

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    Region
    United Kingdom (England)

    Survey time period
    January 1, 2021 to May 31, 2022

    SOURCE LINK(right hand lower link in blue):
    Age-standardised mortality rates for deaths by vaccination status, England: deaths occurring between 1 January 2021 and 31 May 2022
     
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    More cross thread spamming
    Failed to source the data in the last thread like we should expect it will happen here?
    Where did the data come from for that? Whats the data source?
     
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    I believe we have some major chain yanking going on here.

     
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    The decrease may be severe in some people but, obviously not in most .. if that were the case we would have a real pandemic on our hands .. not with 40 per 100,000 dying but 50,000 per 100,000.

    If there is a "Severe" decrease in one's immune system overall .. your good bacteria will not be able to fight off the bad bacteria .. and you will die of pneumonia with in a short period of time .. lucky to make it a year or two.

    I am with you on the slight and person dependent decrease though .. I know a number of double vaxed super spreaders regularly .. like every 2 months getting sick .. since the Jab .. was not the case prior. There is also a correlation between number of Jabs and sickness ... more jabs = more sick.
     
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    It creates a ticking time bomb, thats the problem. They are seeing stage 0 to stage 4 cancer and death in 6 months for some types of cancers. The big thing with all this aside from the near immediate damage/death is that once a cancer takes hold and due to the long term of the unatural mRNA remaining in the body it can take a good hold, it makes it more difficult for people to recover. Pharmaceutical genocide.
     
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    I wish you would stop but you persist. I already accepted your concession for failure to explain how that refutes my claims. Stop cross spamming your failed claims and I will stop responding with the same answer and challenge that you continually evade. Hell you already conceded, why dont you admit you dont know and just move on.
     
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    Awaiting a response to this. Source provided numerous times now, as yet not a single reply!
     
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    Kokomojojo Well-Known Member

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    whats that chart supposed to tell us? What should my take away point be?
     
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    You have been evading that chart AND LINK! for 4 pages.

    In an UNLINKED/UNCITED image in post #16 you made some bullshit claim about insurance analysts together with the silly emoji.

    Here is my reply that 4 pages later you have ignored. It shows clearly that your table is wrong, it shows your table has no link, something you've been bleating on about for me to provide.
    Stop yanking chains and answer the damn post!
     
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    If there were more people vaccinated than unvaccinated, then there should be more deaths because vaccines don't prevent death. They help the body reduce the reproduction of pathogens. If you have data that the vaccines failed to cause a reduction in the reproduction of pathogens then you should stick with that.

    Fact or opinion?
     
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    I'm not referring to these statistics but I can tell you than statistics in general are used to mislead as well as to teach. Many statistics fail to consider context. I always remember a statistic I saw years ago that most auto accidents occur within 25 miles of home. It failed to explain that most driving occurs within 25 miles of home so the statistic was meaningless. There are thousands of examples in history. Anytime you analyze statistics you have to be sure to consider what if any benefit the provider of the numbers enjoys. My own opinion is that government uses statistics to mislead more than the private sector does.

    Having said that, I think the vaccines did reduce the RATE of hospitalization among people testing positive for COVID. The numbers originated in the private sector and it is trivial to compare the rates as long as you have accurate counts of the predicate. The medical community is pretty consistent in agreeing with that. I don't trust government much but I do tend to trust the private sector medical community. I have interfaced with it a lot in my life with some pretty serious conditions. I am alive today thanks to the medical community. Fact not opinion. So I take what the medical community tells me before anything government tells me.
     
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