China's oppression of Tibet

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  1. reedak

    reedak Well-Known Member

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    Either Uncle Sam is the kindest gentleman with the heart of a living Buddha or the greatest damned fool on earth not to collapse the Chinese economy.

    Uncle Sam has no talk and no action.

    AboveAlpha has a lot of talk but no action. :smile:
     
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    God and Satan are the Greatest Dictators. Do they need you or anyone to justify their existence? One fine day, you will have the chance to kneel and kowtow to either one of them while you wait for your final judgment. :angel:
     
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    Please provide a link or website to show China's stated goal of reunifying Taiwan by the year 2010.
     
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    So you are saying to me and I quote..."you pretty much has no clues."...end quote s002wjh????

    I am thinking that either your horrific grasp of the English language or perhaps your use of the worse translation software I have ever seen.....as you list yourself being from Ohio and most of us know that living in Ohio is like living on Mars compared to other U.S. States.....is causing the issues here. LOL!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    There are so many declarations over the years of when China intended to have total reunification with Taiwan completed by a certain date.....as dates would be set and then time would pass and these set dates for reunification would come and go....but I will provide you with a LINK to a good source that details how in December of 1978 Deng Xiaoping who was the most senior and powerful revolutionary leader in Post-Mao China set out 3 major goals for China to achieve during the 1980's one of those 3 being the REUNIFICATION OF CHINA WITH TAIWAN.

    Of course China then and still today dares not attempt such insanity because the U.S. Military and U.S. Navy especially reigns SUPREME in that part of the world and it's oceans.

    The Reunification of Taiwan with China by 2010 is just another of dozens of such proclamations who's dates have come and gone.

    I have been to hina several times and I REALLY HOPE there will never be a Chinese Communist Leader stupid and crazy enough to attempt reunifying Taiwan by FORCE.

    The number of the DEAD Chinese members of the PLA....Peoples Liberation Army and PLN.....Peoples Liberation Navy....after attempting some ill concieved plan as to use Military Force to reunify Taiwan with China would be a number so high....it is difficult to contemplate.

    Very soon....the finial Bastions of the Old Maoist Chinese Communist Party will DIE OUT.

    When that finally happens....the United States and China can move their relationship and friendship closer which would be more profitable for both Nations.

    After awhile I grow tired of some members talking about the power and rise of China or Russia...etc.

    They go on and on about such things and the reality is not Russia nor China nor both combined would be so stupid as to challenge the U.S. Militarily.

    By and by the Massive U.S. Military acts in a manner beneficial for the world and this has been seen again and again after major Natural Disasters such as the Indonesian Tsunami, Japanese Earthquake and Tsunami, Haitian Earthquake....etc.....as well how without the protection of International Shipping Lanes by the U.S. Navy....China itself has thanked the USN. for it's protection of Chinese Export and Oil Import ships.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    My question to you is....Really? Is that the kind of GOD you want to worship?

    Sounds more like a SPOILED BRAT TO ME!!!

    If a GOD exists....it is NOTHING like you think it might be.

    AboveAlpha

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    What do you want us to do?

    Cause Millions....HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO STARVE???

    That's not the Country I work for.

    AboveAlpha
     
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    China will have it's DEMOCRATIC REVOLUTION....and I am fairly certain it has already started.

    It's just that unlike how a U.S. Marine as example is trained NOT TO BE A ROBOT!!!

    A U.S. Marine is trained to THINK, ADAPT, OVERCOME, THINK WAY OUTSIDE THE BOX.....and it is the DUTY OF EVERY MARINE AND DUTY OF EVERY MEMBER OF THE AMERICAN MILITARY TO QUESTION ORDERS THAT WOULD SEEM TO BE ILLEGAL OR UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    Many years ago at Kent State a bunch of U.S. National Guardsmen....nothing but just KIDS themselves....were ordered to stop what they were told was rioting and lawlessness and anarchy at KENT STATE UNIVERSITY.

    It was the 1960's and Flower Power and Peace, Love, Dope where the mantras.

    The National Guardsmen were scared....the Students were protesting....and then 4 DEAD IN OHIO!!

    This was a dramatic and tragic event that will ever be remembered in U.S. History.

    Chinese Students tried to do it themselves in Tiananmen Square where they erected a statue they called THE GODESS OF LIBERTY....it looked very much like the U.S. Statue of Liberty given to the U.S. by France.

    Total dead.....at MINIMUM....3000....could be as high as 9000.

    The Chinese PLA.....came in and mowed the kids down like they were nothing.

    They loaded them up into trucks and burried them in mass graves out in the country.

    THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN!!!

    When?

    When the people of hina come together and realize they don't need a COMMUNIST PARTY that has no business existing or running a Capitalist System in the first place!!!

    I hope this Revolution will be peaceful....but it will happen.

    AboveAlpha
     
  8. reedak

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    My AboveAlpha friend, do you have the choice of the kind of God you want to worship? Do I have a choice too? Whom do you think you are to bargain with or challenge against God?

    Let's refer to the Holy Bible, which is truly the inspired and infallible Word of God, to find out the kind of God that generations of people worldwide believe WHAT HE IS since ancient times, not the kind of God WE WANT HIM TO BE or WANT TO WORSHIP.

    "I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me" Isaiah 46:9

    If you still don't know that most people believe in only one God, you must be a frog in the well. Since there is only one God, how can there be any election in heaven? How can there be democracy in heaven? Isn't the only one God a dictator?

    Perhaps mankind has to wait for the "one fine day" when you go to heaven to challenge God in an election! That will be the day when democracy is going to introduce to heaven. Your failure to introduce democracy to heaven will mean that not only you but all mankind will continue to live in eternity in heaven under the Greatest Dictatorship, i.e the one and only God. :angel:

    P.S. Please check the Bible and Koran for the word "democracy". You won't find the word. Even among the Olympian gods of the ancient Greeks, there was no democracy.

    If you discover any democratic polytheistic religion, i.e. with many gods holding elections regularly in heaven, please don't hesitate to inform us. It is the religion I think all of us are looking forward to joining before going to heaven.

    Passages that say there is only one God:
    http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-oneness-unity-one-god.htm

    The Olympian gods
    http://www.greek-gods.org/olympian-gods.php

    Polytheism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytheism
     
  9. AboveAlpha

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    I know an incredible amount of data from a number of Religions.

    Here are a few things you probably don't know and if you don't believe me just Google it.

    You posted..."Let's refer to the Holy Bible, which is truly the inspired and infallible Word of God>"....end quote reedak.

    Did you know that.....The first “canon” was the Muratorian Canon, which was compiled in A.D. 170. The Muratorian Canon included all of the New Testament books except Hebrews, James, and 3 John. In A.D. 363, the Council of Laodicea stated that only the Old Testament (along with the Apocrypha) and the 27 books of the New Testament were to be read in the churches. The Council of Hippo (A.D. 393) and the Council of Carthage (A.D. 397) also affirmed the same 27 books as authoritative.

    The actual Name and Book in Chritianity known as THE OLD TESTAMENT did not actually physically exist until a little over 400 YEARS AFTER JESUS WAS BORN!!!


    For Christians today, their Bible has an Old and New Testament; both testaments are a collection of books revealed over time. The Old Testament was revealed over a thousand year period, 1450 B.C. to 425 B.C.; the New Testament is separated from the New Testament by a 450-year period known as the Inter-testimonial period. The New Testament, unlike the Old was revealed over a much shorter time, a sixty-year period, from A.D. 33 to 100.

    By the time of Jesus, the Old Testament canon was closed 450-years earlier. The question many people have is how did the New Testament find itself placed alongside the books of the Old Testament? In addition, how did the books in the New Testament get included in the canon?

    First, the any Bible student needs to understand the Old Testament is the foundation of the New Testament. Jesus the Messiah is the fulfillment of prophecies of the Old Testament canon. The Messiah’s death and the establishment of a New Covenant is a chief focus of the Old Covenant and its canon. The Messiah would come, suffer and die for the sins of the world; through the Messiah’s death, God would establish a New Covenant. The New Covenant would establish an eternal relationship between God and fallen humanity.

    The New Testament Canon confirms and testifies to the life of Jesus the Messiah, who established the New Covenant in accordance to the Old Testament canon. The New Testament has several divisions. First, the Gospels, they reveal the life, ministry, and teachings of Jesus the Messiah. Second, history, known as the Book of Acts records the history of the early church after the ascension of Christ. Thirdly, the Epistles are letters of instruction, from Apostles to the churches and church leaders in the early church. Finally, the Apocalypse or Revelation describes the final events leading to the return of Jesus the Messiah.

    Therefore when discussing the New Testament canon, we need to understand its dependence on Old Testament canon. For example, half the verses of the book of Revelation have a direct or indirect reference to verses in the Old Testament. The Gospels and Epistles constantly refer to the Old Testament.


    LINK....http://www.gotquestions.org/canon-Bible.html


    AboveAlpha
     
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    You try to confuse the readers with the history of New and Old Testament. The most laughable thing is that you also include two irrelevant questions:

    1. The question many people have is how did the New Testament find itself placed alongside the books of the Old Testament?

    2. In addition, how did the books in the New Testament get included in the canon?

    Whatever answers you provide for the two questions, they won't help you in your argument, unless the answers mention more than one God running elections regularly in heaven.

    Hence, despite all your desperate attempts to blur the whole issue with large chunks of irrelevant materials, the main issue is about the One and Only God.

    Doesn't the Old Testament preach only one God?

    Doesn't the New Testament preach only one God?

    Didn't Jesus preach only one God in His worldly mission?

    Again the same argument: If there is only one God, how can there be democracy and election in heaven. God would be both the candidate and voter in one entity!
     
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    You sound not only like a SPOILED BRAT but SENNACHERIB or LUCIFER (SATAN) to me in questioning the existence of God.

    Both Sennacherib and Lucifer (Satan) were reported in the Bible to have challenged God.

    Please note that I printed the words "to me" in small letters, unlike you who printed them in capital letters with three exclamation marks. :smile:

    With regard to your claim that "If a GOD exists....it is NOTHING like you think it might be", I am sure everybody here is interested to know what you think He might be.

    P.S. You display your arrogance by using the pronoun "it" for God in the above sentence, treating him like an object or an animal, without respect.

    Beware of Judgment Day! :angel:
     
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    You can't argue a point when it is a oint specific to a persons RELIGIOUS BELIEFS!!!

    Now if I did I could tell you or any other member that THERE DOES NOT EXIST ONE SINGLE SOLITARY BIT OF VIABLE EVIDENCE THAT A GOD OR GODS EXIST.

    So your argument is the same as two people arguing whether the Giant 500 Foot Tall walking n two feet Pink Elephant hiding behind Freedom Tower has White Spots or Purple Spots???

    This arguement has EXACTLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MERIT AND PROBABILITY YOUR PROPOSED ARGUEMENT HAS!!!!

    You are asking questions about whether the 500 Foot Tall Pink Elephant told peole it had White Spots because that's what someone wrote down in a book said the Giant Pink Elephant Taught!! LOL!!!

    Oh....and THERE WAS NO EXISTING OLD TESTAMENT....although there was the Torah and Koran from which the writings in the beginnings of both were used to CREATE A BOOK CALLED THE OLD TESTAMANT back in 170 AD.......and Old Testament (along with the Apocrypha) and the 27 books of the New Testament were to be read in the churches. The Council of Hippo (A.D. 393) and the Council of Carthage (A.D. 397) also affirmed the same 27 books as authoritative.

    Thus the Old Testament DID NOT EXIST util the Roman Imerial Bibical Canon CREATED IT...using mostly wat was written in the Torah and Koran to do so!!!

    The New Testamant was not completed until 417 AD as Revelations kept getting rejected for entry into the New Testament as it was seen as to rediculous and too Fire and Brimstone not matchng up with the Love and Peace message of the New Testmanet.

    And why do you think only the Gospels of the fab 4 Aostles were only used...Matthew, Mark, Luke and John?

    It's because the Gospe;sof the other 8 Aposteles stated that Jesus taught THAT ALL MEN COULD BECOME THE SON'S OF GOD IF THREY FOLLOWED HIS TEACHINGS.

    The other 4 of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John stated that Jesus taught HE WAS THE ACTUAL SON OF A GOD!!!

    Remember this...not one existing original Gospel exists...period!!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    I worship the Goddess Guanyin. She protects me and brings me good luck.
     
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    Instead of producing huge chunks of irrelevant materials about the history of Old and New Testament, just tell us your religion.

    With regard to your claim that "not one existing original Gospel exists", it does not matter whether your claim is true or false, unless the original Gospel preached the existence of more than one God, holding elections regularly in heaven. So can you tell us how many Gods were worshipped by the faithful in the original Gospel?
     
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    Well said. Have you asked her whether she runs for election regularly in heaven? :angel:
     
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    Amitabha! Uncle Sam is really the kindest gentleman with the heart of a living Buddha not to collapse the Chinese economy. May the almighty Buddha bless Uncle Sam. :unclesam:

    Glossary - Buddhism
    http://archive.artsmia.org/art-of-asia/buddhism/buddhism-glossary.cfm
     
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    That's the point....since the Gospels were rewritten from ememory as anyone who wrote them was kiled by the Roman's and the Gospels burned.....and thus we have opies of copies of copies many times over written by dead men from memory.....WE REALLY HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY ACTUALLY SAID!!!

    I am NOT RELIGIOUS.....AS RELIGION IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL!!!

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    Are u trying to divert the subject by making fun of Ohio because you couldn't find a credible source to backup your claim lol
     
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    No....it's just too easy and too much fun to resist making jokes about Ohio!! LOL!!

    As for your question....I posted what I did because you slaughtered the English Language so badly...and I just re-read what you asked.....I still have not a clue to what you are saying or asking! LOL!!

    AboveAlpha
     
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    Tibetans are like Palestinians.
     
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    still waiting for source, ppl like you babbling crap without any knowledge what so ever. :alcoholic: you know you dont have any credible source, hence you want divert the subject. if you can't understand, then you need re-take high school. anyway i'm done, not gonna reply to your troll anymore.
     
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    How about you try relisting the question or whatever it is you were trying to do using words that people can understand and then I will be more than happy to do what you ask?

    AboveAlpha
     
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    What is your personal opinion of Canada and America altering our economy so that we make better use of natural gas?

    This policy may work quite well in Israel.
     
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    Over the past year or so I read several articles online by members of Falun Gong.

    I was impressed to see the author quoting Helen Wambach Ph. D.

    The Atheistic government of China fears the Falun Gong..... as well as Tibetan Buddhism..... partly because these religions seem to be tapping into aspects of spirituality that hold up to several methods of examination.

    http://www.pureinsight.org/node/1165

     
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    It all depends upon where Israel is buying their Natural Gas.

    If you are a nation without Energy Reserves....you are always going to be at the mercy of who supplies you oil, gas...etc.

    This is why the U.S. and Canada will become completely Energy Self Sufficient by 2023.

    Israel is small so if there wasn't a Terrorist Issue I would use Nuclear Power and Natural Gas.....probably LNG supplied by the U.S. and Canada.

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