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What a bunch of nonsense and falsehood. Saudi Arabia has committed so many war crimes in Yemen it is not even funny. Almost every nation on the planet - including NATO members have called out Saudi Arabia for their crimes against humanity in Yemen which is a full blown humanitarian crisis.

ISIS - AQ- Boko Haram -Taliban, Al Shabaab and numerous others "ALL" share the same Saudi inspired extremist Islamist ideology. Saud has been exporting this ideology around the world for decades and arming and/or supporting these groups.

 

Excellent summation.

 

And once again - as was the case in Syria - in Yemen El Saud is fighting on the same side as Al Qaeda ... surprise surprise.

 

You have it completely backwards. Remember the USS Cole?

In 2000 the Saudis moved all Arab villages back from the Yemen border 20 kilometers and started construction on a security fence..

Further, Yemen used to produce 400,000 bpd of crude oil but in the past decade AQ has attacked oil facilities and pipeline repeatedly.. So currently oil production is down to 40,000 bpd on a good day.

By 2008 over 500 hundred factories in Yemen had closed down.

KSA invested in Hospitals, Clinics, Colleges, clean water, job creation, food and medicine for Yemen for the past 40 years. Up until the fighting broke out KSA was also providing gasoline for Yemen.

Currently KSA has taken in a million refugees from Yemen.

 

Saudi Arabia has never fought on the same side with AQ..

As for Syria .. KSA has had an aggressive campaign to stop young Saudis from going to Syria.. and if they go anyway, they go to prison when they return to the kingdom.

 

No they aren't Saudi inspired.. AQ is Deobandi and Muslim Brotherhood.

Taliban is also Deobandi.

ISIS came out of Baathist forces in Iraq.

Al Shaabab and Boko Haram are against all Western education while the Saudis have embraced Western education since 1950.

 

LOL .. the are fighting on the same side as Al Qaeda as we speak in Yemen. Did you not realize this? Al Qaeda and the forces fighting on the side of Saudi Arabia fight along side each other.

Your comment on KSA stopping young Saudi's from going to Syria is laughable nonsense. Many Saudi's loyal to the Saudi inspired Islamist ideology rushed into Syria to help their Islamist brethren. Saud dumped billions of dollars into arms and support for Al Qaeda and the Islamist Jihadists who went on to form the modern incarnation of ISIS.

As usual - you provide no support for your claim -but, my guess is that if you did we would find that this was later on in the war when El Saud was trying to distance itself from direct involvement in a proxy war that resulted in the worst humanitarian crisis so far this decade - 500,000 dead, the refugee crisis and the rise of the modern incarnation of ISIS.

 

Why do you suppose many of our Ivy League universities have satellite schools in Arabia?

Have you ever been to Damascus or Beirut or Tehran, or Basra or Baghdad or anywhere in Saudi Arabia?

 

ISIS was called "Al Qaeda" in Iraq .. despite that previously you denied that Al Qaeda and ISIS were connected.

LOL "Western Education" you mean like teaching their children to hate Christians, Jews and other Muslim groups that do not share their same extremist Islamist ideology ?

Al Qaeda follows a Saudi Inspired Salafist extremist Islamist ideology. You running around in circles crying "no no no" will not change this fact.

 

Leaked email from John Podesta revealed by Wikileaks:

“We need to use our diplomatic and more traditional intelligence assets to bring pressure on the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, which are providing clandestine financial and logistic support to ISIL and other radical Sunni groups in the region.”

This from a 2009 leaked State department cable:

“Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide,” the documents said. “While the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) takes seriously the threat of terrorism within Saudi Arabia, it has been an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority …"

“More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaeda, the Taliban, LeT, and other terrorist groups..."

Got any more BS for us Margot?

 

What sort of morons have you been listening to?

The campaign to prevent young Saudis from going to Syria began in 2011 and has been well documented.

ISIS was born in Camp Bucca Prison in Iraq in 2004.

 

The state dept gets notoriously poor marks on the Middle East. Qatar and KSA are on opposite sides of the fence.

Remember these are the same clowns who said the war on Iraq would be over in a month and we would be welcomed as liberators.

These are the same ejits who said the Pahlavi were secure and would rule for a thousand years right before the Iranian Revolution.

Qatar has hosted Taliban, AQ and ISIS.. Saudi Arabia has never.

 

No Western education means young Saudis have attended colleges in the US since 1950 by the thousands... and now go to graduate school in the US.. It means that 15 years ago KSA stopped rote learning and pushed critical thinking skills.

 

That does not change the fact that Saudi Arabia armed and supported Al Qaeda and the Islamist groups that went on to become the modern incarnation of ISIS.

Nor does where ISIS was born change the fact that ISIS was known as "Al Qaeda" in Iraq and shares much of their Saudi Inspired Islamist extremist ideology.

 

Lovely that a few Saudi Rich Kids were sent to be educated in the US. It is not unusual that the ruling class does not subscribe to the religion that the proscribe.

 

Thousands.. and not rich kids.. They are chosen on merit and have been since the 1950s... You really should learn something about the realities.

Look at Ali Naimi.. He was a barefoot Bedouin who started as a teen aged office boy..

 

Nope in 1994 KSA revoked Osama Bin Laden's citizenship and declared AQ a terrorist organization. Didn't you even know that?

ISIS really came together because of Maliki.. and that just blows my mind. He spent most of his life in Iran and I cannot conceive of how the Bush administration failed to know that.

Probably was Podesta.. and those geniuses in the state dept.

 

What does any of this have to do with the "FACT" that Saudi Arabia is the cradle of the extremist Islamist ideology followed by - extremist group such as Al Qaeda - ISIS -Taliban - Boko Haram - Al Shabaab and so on.

When these kids - kids who are educated in Western Schools - come back to the land of Saud, do they protest against Saudi Style Strict Sharia Orwellian dictatorship ? A land that hates individual liberty even more than Hitler (sands killing of the Jews) ?

Spare me your attempts to apologize for your beloved El Saud.

If you hate individual liberty and think extremist religious beliefs should be forced on others through physical violence (Law) .. you are welcome to your opinion.

I just do not share it.

 

You don't know anything about Saudi Arabia or its people. .. and that's understandable.. After 9-11 the airways were flooded with insta-pundits who didn't know anything about Saudi Arabia or Islam or the oil business... and since then a lot of hate sites have sprung up and they earn their living feeding lies and half truths to people like you.

 

What does that have to do with the fact that Al Qaeda follows the Saudi inspired extremist ideology ? Extremist groups often have divisions and fight each other. Nothing new about that. Heck - you often have infighting even within the same group. Al Qaeda distanced itself from ISIS but this does not change the fact that they share the same ideology. ISIS "too violent" even for Al Qaeda - if that is not a laugh.

This is exactly the same as Al Qaeda being "too violent" even for El Saud. Ever heard of a thing called "Politics".. what is Saudi Arabia supposed to do when one of its children attacks the US - openly support them ?

This is beyond obvious. Let logical thought and rational thinking be your friend - as it normally is when ever you are discussing almost every topic other than this one.

 

No Margot - It is you that drinks in the MSM propaganda. This post "again" just avoids the content of message in a fallacious effort to demonize the messenger.

 

Nope.. and I am surprised you haven't figured this out in the past 15 years.. QA follows Sayiid Qubt and al Banna which have been outlawed in KSA since 1970.

 

As usual - your opining completely lacks context in an effort to misrepresent the truth.

As lovers sometimes do - the relationship between El Saud and the Muslim Brotherhood has been rocky.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/06/saudi-brotherhood-friends-foes-170623093039202.html

The fact that these lovers quarrel from time to time changes nothing about the fact that they share the same base ideology. The quarrel had much to do with Politics and little to do with sharing the same base ideology.

Nice try but no cigar for you.

 

Agreed.