Clinton Leads by 4 Nationally; Trump Hurt Himself in Debate

LOL, I gave you hard facts. Utterly unable to refute them, you responded with "it was suggested" and now with "maybe Trump will be bad".... Who is guessing, Frank? DUH

 

Exactly.....Frank isn't much up on backing his opinion. Real Truth.....Hillary is getting a small bump. Nothing like she needed. Hence all the dumpage on Trump by the MS media, as well as breaking out OLD dirty water.

Hillary is so desperate she has gone back to playing the womens card. Her vagina monologue.

 

I not only am guessing...I am man enough to acknowledge that I am guessing...offering opinions.

You, on the other hand, are also offering opinions and guessing...but you are not acknowledging that you are guessing.

DUH!

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The only way we will ever know how the candidates fared in this election cycle...is to look at the numbers on the morning of November 9thj.

Anything else is guessing...and for the Republican side...a bunch of excuse making.

 

Well, My fellow Washingtonian, if I wasn't such a sucker for the environment, and so anti-fracking, and so sure that tax reductions for corporations that rake in $billions every year wont bring jobs back to America, I would probably be voting for Rubio because I think is smart and articulate, and would probably make a good president. I would not however be voting for Cruz. I can't tolerate his religious piety. The fact is, Hillary is the best candidate running in this election cycle. I don't like her pandering to minorities, or her wide-open border policies, but she is simply the best candidate running.
Hillary may be corrupt--most politicians are; but so is Trump. Trump will be doing what Hillary is accused of doing by the right wing worshippers of a reality TV show host--selling his political position for personal financial gain. Trump is a very greedy, stingy billionaire who will give the best deals to his fellow greedy, stingy billionaires. Trump will privatize America and the only people who will benefit from this are his billionaire buddies. He is probably already taking bids for the private ownership of the Olympic National Forest, which fossil fuel giants are probably salivating to frack in.

You are right when you say that I don't support Hillary as much as I hate the intellectually challenged Trump. I have never seen such a unqualified person running for president, and I've been through a few election cycles.

As far as knowing what the "P" is, you are right, I don't know what it is. It might be a part of some economic formula--I don't know. But I do know that giving speeches is considered a service and services are considered one of the two main parameters for calculating GDP. And one more thing: The Clintons pay around 44% of their income to taxes while Trump most likely paya nothing (because he is so smart, lol).

 

I sometimes do offer opinions and guesses. In this particular discussion I've given you facts:

-Trump's corporate profit of half a billion or more - fact (FEC financial disclosure that you refuse to read)
-The IRS practices of taxing every penny of corporate income according to their laws and practices - fact
-The tax fraud GE and a few other Fortune 100 companies got away with on Bill Clinton/Hillary, GWB/Senator Hillary, Obama/Hillary watch - fact
-CEOs of Fortune 100 companies donate exclusively to Hillary who represents the elites and ruling class in this election - fact

 

Those are not facts...but it is cute you think they are.

Here are some facts:

The Earth, on average, is about 93,000,000 miles from the sun.

Jupiter is by far the largest planet in our system of planets.

Paris is the capital of France.

I am 80 years old.

The president of the United States right now is Barack Obama.

 

Your son probably got paid a hell of lot less than he would have before the Clintons legalized importing of goods manufactured by slaves.

 

Except for the fact that what you call excuses by the Republican side.....falls back onto the bellweathers. Like 2 Economic models that go back to 92 in Predicting Presidential elections. Then Counties in Ohio that have a damn near perfect record going with who will be the Next US president. As well as counties now in Pennsylvania.

Which is now why those of the left are on TV and radio saying they don't accept the bellweathers anymore.

 

No, actually he's a union ironworker, and gets paid really well--enough to buy a nice used car and a modest house, and hopefully support his wife and my new grandchild. He has gone through long periods of unemployment though like after the recession that started under the Bush regime.

Republican congressmen are actually the ones that signed off on NAFTA, Clinton should have vetoed it, but nonetheless; and as far as TTP, it is a bipartisan issue that Obama pushed and the republican congress signed off on.
These 'free trade' bills do nothing but give corporations enhanced power to shove their will down our throats; and the last time I checked, it is the republicans who can't do enough for their corporate buddies, and republicans who, under Bush, swore giving them major tax breaks would bring jobs back to America. It is Trump who is running on the same sorry agenda that Bush ran on. Trump doesn't believe in a flat tax, but he wants to wants to give corporations a tax break--a major tax break with all the loop holes they can find. That is a republican thing, a I-don't-pay-taxes Trump thing.

 

You are a person guessing about things...

...without the ethical wherewithal to acknowledge that is all you are doing.

Live with it.

 

A little research into sources published before he became a candidate would reveal the opposite.

 

Trump complains about Latina beauty doing pornography but forgot that he made an appearance in a porno movie:



http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/30/trump-3.html



and the fact that his wife did plenty of porno pics:

http://gq-images.condecdn.net/image/EnxKG0KPJdk/crop/810




What incredible hypocrisy and stupidity! How can anyone vote for such a hypocrite???

 

Yeah and yet all you got is your Opinion without any backup. So it is what it is.

 

Gross Domestic Product. The Clintons have never produced anything. GDP does not factor "taxes". Our economy is not hinged on the money the government takes from us. This is part of the problem... people such as yourself believe that the government is responsible for everything, the provider of everything. They have great influence, folks on our side say too much... but our taxes are not responsible for the economy other than taking away money that could be used to grow it. I mean that is a simplistic explanation, but for those who do not know how it works, a granular exploration will be long and lost on those who haven't bothered to figure it out yet. Yes they control interest rates, and impose regulations... but the overall economy is an animal unto itself.

You assume Trump is corrupt, because you do not like him. That is a bull(*)(*)(*)(*) argument. You KNOW Clinton is corrupt, and if you were to brave the concept of degrees, there has probably never been one so corrupt so close to the White House. Corruption at the highest levels of government is how liberty is murdered. How you could possibly in good conscience willingly put someone in you know is without any credibility and completely corrupt is beyond me. I have to temper my speech to you because you are undoubtedly a good person, working very hard to destroy our country, and I don't know how to put across to you the damage you are doing. This isn't hyperbole. You are against fracking? Have you any idea how much fracking has exploded under Obama?


Clinton will expand it even further trying to limit the use of coal. Bernie was your guy there... and Clinton and the DNC conspired to demolish his chances. Not Trump, Clinton. How can you cast that ballot? Seriously ask yourself that.

 

Yep, they did not "produce" failed friggin casinos, and golf courses that are all run by people working in the service industry. It is not so much the buildings and golf courses that contribute to the GDP, but the money made off them, and the money paid to the service employees.

You can spin it anyway you want, but speeches are considered a service, and therefore they have contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to the GDP, and they paid taxes on the money earned from the speeches. You may not think they are worth the money they got paid for making the speeches and writing their books, but rules don't change just because you don't like them.

Trump is a fool, IMHO, and we will have to disagree on that.

 

Yup...and I acknowledge it. But like I said, you do not have the ethical wherewithal to acknowledge you're doing it also.

 

Latest polls released today continue to show a steady trend up for HRC..........and has taken commanding leads in 4 battle ground state......

What give the Twitter storm of this week............one can easily assume next weeks polls will see a continuing gain for HRC over Trump..........

And not considering the change in strategy the self-destructive Trump is now going........


Sniffles" as reported in today's NYT's he is planning to attack HRC as the 'enabler' for Bill's infidelities........... And then 'destroyed' the women who bedded Bill down........

As a new strategy to gain more of the women's vote..............

You tell that to a victim of a husband infidelity and you will hear.........

"Tell me how she did it"........... and a sure loser in any attempt to garner any additional support from women

37 days until November 8th and he is wasting them so he will never be able to recover........

And rather than running for president wasted time against a "gold Star Mother..........The MSM........Debate Moderators……… a microphone …….President Obama……….a Miss Universe '96....... Bill Clinton and “fat pigs” and “dogs………
Rather than focusing his efforts at HRC who is running for President

So I say...........Let Donald be Donald.......

 

Hillary could not pay someone to be of as much help to her...as Donald Trump is for free.

And...HE IS TIRELESS...never pausing for a moment from helping her.

 

Just get out of his way...............say nothing........

........ and let him have center stage

I still cannot believe this is a run for the presidency and not a live TV reality show..........

Never in a lifetime could I ever thing this so.............

 

Within the margins of error is hardly 'struggling'...

 

Trump dropped a bit in yesterday's LA Times/USC daily tracking Daybreak poll, but surged back up today.

How can that happen!?

 

Trend-wise, he's definitely struggling since about Sept 18th.

 

Not really, its been pretty close for a while now, generally within the margins of error. Still appears polling this cycle is utterly useless and unreliable...

 

I think we can both agree that the Bush regime is full of scumbags. I am hoping to diminish their influence by voting for the only candidate left they refuse to give money to.