CNN To Be Sued 250 Million Over Fake News

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  1. BillRM

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    Now you are moving for some reason from the Western Roman Empire to the Eastern Roman Empire that survive to the late 1400 AD?

    In any case, the US foundering fathers focus on the pre empire period IE the Republican period mostly before the Jesus cult was born period.
     
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    A pregnant woman who is injured and aborts the fetus warrants financial compensation only (to her husband), suggesting that the fetus is property, not a person (Exodus 21:22-25).

    The gruesome priestly purity test to which a wife accused of adultery must submit will cause her to abort the fetus if she is guilty, indicating that the fetus does not possess a right to life (Numbers 5:11-31).

    God enumerated his punishments for disobedience, including "cursed shall be the fruit of your womb" and "you will eat the fruit of your womb," directly contradicting sanctity-of-life claims (Deuteronomy 28:18,53).

    Elisha's prophecy for soon-to-be King Hazael said he would attack the Israelites, burn their cities, crush the heads of their babies and rip open their pregnant women (2 Kings 8:12).

    King Menahem of Israel destroyed Tiphsah and the surrounding towns, killing all residents and ripping open pregnant women with the sword (2 Kings 15:16).

    Isaiah prophesied doom for Babylon, including the murder of unborn children: "They will have no pity on the fruit of the womb" (Isaiah 13:18 ).

    For worshiping idols, God declared that not one of his people would live, not a man, woman or child (not even babies in arms), again confuting assertions about the sanctity of life (Jeremiah 44:7-8 ).

    God will punish the Israelites by destroying their unborn children, who will die at birth, or perish in the womb, or never even be conceived (Hosea 9:10-16).

    For rebelling against God, Samaria's people will be killed, their babies will be dashed to death against the ground, and their pregnant women will be ripped open with a sword (Hosea 13:16).

    Jesus did not express any special concern for unborn children during the anticipated end times: "Woe to pregnant women and those who are nursing" (Matthew 24:19).

    In fact, for their census, babies under a month old weren't counted as people at all (Numbers 3:14-15)

    You don't have a theological leg to stand on. Sorry, but your enlightened saints don't agree with you. Maybe you should go back and re-read what they were trying to tell you...
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jesus did not say he will kill the unborn children, or that He doesn't care for the unborn child. He only said 'woe' to those who are pregnant and those who are nursing - which could mean radiation or anything else for that matter. As for the rest, that is the OT when God had not as yet fully revealed Himself.

    I know in the Orthodox Church, any woman who has an abortion cannot receive the Eucharist for two years - which is basically the same as a soldier who kills someone. When I was young and an atheist (and who wasn't at some time), I couldn't think of a fetus as being a person. But when I grew spiritually, then I couldn't think of a fetus as not being a person. This shows the difference in how one reasons when they are in Grace and when they're out of Grace.

    This doesn't mean though I see everything as being black and white, especially when it's rape or a person is young and unmarried. Only that one has to at least recognize it as being a sin - otherwise their mind would be in a state of rebellion against God.

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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Now that's brilliant. For heaven's sake all our Founding Fathers were seminarians. What do you think the Ivy League colleges were? They were Christian Seminaries.

    Anyway here's a sampling of their writings. If you want more you can find them on:

    https://wallbuilders.com/founding-fathers-jesus-christianity-bible/

    “We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” – John Adams

    “While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian.” –George Washington

    “Before any man can be considered as a member of civil society, he must be considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe.” –James Madison

    “To the kindly influence of Christianity we owe that degree of civil freedom, and political and social happiness, which mankind now enjoys…Whenever the pillars of Christianity shall be overthrown, our present republican forms of government – and all blessings which flow from them – must fall with them.” –Jedidiah Morse
     
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    Still waiting for you to produce a BIBLE quote - not the opinion of some man ordained by other like-minded men - that says abortion is a sin.

    FYI - only Catholics and their direct derivatives buy into that 'Saint' *********. Today's saint was yesterday's heretic. Either the papacy was wrong then, or it's wrong now. Bottom line, however, is that it was wrong.

    BTW - in his 1869 document Apostolicae Sedis, Pope Pius IX enacted the penalty of excommunication for abortion at any stage of pregnancy. For the previous 278 years, and following Pope Gregory XIV's Sedes Apostolica document in 1591, such excommunication only applied where abortion took place after "quickening", ie: from those moments when a mother first detected the fetus move.

    So, was Pius IX wrong, or was Gregory XIV wrong? Both cannot be right. And if one pope is wrong, or the understanding of the issue 'evolved,' why should we believe any of them have ever been right, or that the understanding of the issue isn't going to 'evolve' even further? You do you. If you don't believe in abortion, don't friggin' have one. But no one else has any obligation to abide by your "deeply held beliefs," and you stand self-condemned in your self-righteous condemnation of others. Get over it, and get over yourself. Personally, I believe Christ spent His entire ministry warning us about people who believe as you do, and was quite blunt in castigating that particular brand of dogmatic stupidity.

    Matthew 23:1–33


    23 Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples, 2 “The scribes and the Pharisees sit on Moses’ seat; 3 therefore, do whatever they teach you and follow it; but do not do as they do, for they do not practice what they teach. 4 They tie up heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on the shoulders of others; but they themselves are unwilling to lift a finger to move them. 5 They do all their deeds to be seen by others; for they make their phylacteries broad and their fringes long. 6 They love to have the place of honor at banquets and the best seats in the synagogues, 7 and to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces, and to have people call them rabbi. 8 But you are not to be called rabbi, for you have one teacher, and you are all students. 9 And call no one your father on earth, for you have one Father—the one in heaven. 10 Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one instructor, the Messiah. 11 The greatest among you will be your servant. 12 All who exalt themselves will be humbled, and all who humble themselves will be exalted.

    13 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you lock people out of the kingdom of heaven. For you do not go in yourselves, and when others are going in, you stop them. 15 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you cross sea and land to make a single convert, and you make the new convert twice as much a child of hell as yourselves. 16 “Woe to you, blind guides, who say, ‘Whoever swears by the sanctuary is bound by nothing, but whoever swears by the gold of the sanctuary is bound by the oath.’ 17 You blind fools! For which is greater, the gold or the sanctuary that has made the gold sacred? 18 And you say, ‘Whoever swears by the altar is bound by nothing, but whoever swears by the gift that is on the altar is bound by the oath.’ 19 How blind you are! For which is greater, the gift or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20 So whoever swears by the altar, swears by it and by everything on it; 21 and whoever swears by the sanctuary, swears by it and by the one who dwells in it; 22 and whoever swears by heaven, swears by the throne of God and by the one who is seated upon it. 23“Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint, dill, and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. It is these you ought to have practiced without neglecting the others. 24 You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel! 25 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you clean the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 You blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup, so that the outside also may become clean. 27 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which on the outside look beautiful, but inside they are full of the bones of the dead and of all kinds of filth. 28 So you also on the outside look righteous to others, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness. 29 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you build the tombs of the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous, 30 and you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 Thus you testify against yourselves that you are descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Fill up, then, the measure of your ancestors. 33 You snakes, you brood of vipers! How can you escape being sentenced to hell?
     
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    You got to be kidding me Jefferson, Paine and Madison for ones was not true believers in your superstition nonsense and most of the other major founders all constantly was referring to the Rome Republic and it form of government not the bible or other religion text as a model for our government.

    I refer you to the Jefferson bible where Jefferson took out all the supernatural elements from the new testament and Paine 'Age of Reason' where he torn up both the new and the old testament and some of Madison letters.

     
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    To be honest, I think our Founding Fathers were on the defensive to the Europeans for not having an anointed king, otherwise why would they all be so emphatic about their Christian faith? I know the Europeans did not think the US would survive.
     
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    @Jeannette :blowkiss:


    The suit has been thrown out by da judge




    Maybe not worth $250 Million,
    but worth something to sting an irresponsible press.


    Moi :oldman:


    Don't :flagcanada:ize, :flagus:
     
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    Kid could end up being a lucky guy just like his idol. Good for him.
     
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    Sounds like $250,000,000 worth to me. Where do I sign up for a deal like this?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As I said the Bible is a book compiled by the same Saints that have given us Holy Tradition. What is it that you can't understand? If you accept what is written in the Bible, then by the same token you must accept Holy Tradition as it appears in the Orthodox Church and the Early Catholic Church before the Frank invasions. You can't have it both ways. You can't accept the Saints as being enlightened in compiling the Bible, but not accept them as being enlightened in Holy Tradition. It's either one or the other, so make up your mind.

    Anyway I'm not Roman Catholic, I'm Greek Orthodox. So I don't know why you're quoting the Pope to me. I know in my Church if a woman has an abortion and confesses, she is not able to receive the Eucharist for two years - the same as a soldier would if he killed someone in battle. And this has been part of Church cannons for almost 2 thousand years.

    This doesn't mean the Catholic Church is wrong in its stance on abortion regardless of how they define it, only that they're not looking at the cause of the problem, which is the lack of morality in our society. Instead they're trying to stop abortion which is the outcome of our social problem.

    Had the RC not scared the wits out of feminists over Roe vs Wade, they might not have voted so heavily for the liberal judges. It's these liberal judges that created the social and moral problems that we have today. And it's because of those judges, that we have all the abortions going on today.
     
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    Of course the medias are not going to pay all that money, although I know that Melania Trump did sue a British paper for slandering her out of principle, and she did win. I think the purpose of the suits is to make the medias think twice before slandering people otherwise they would have settled it out of court.

    I wonder if this is going to go to the Supreme Court?
     
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    There was no slander, hence this ridiculous case being thrown out.
     
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    I did see one announcer from some network slam the kid really hard, and I tried to find the video to post it, but it was removed. He definitely has a case.
     
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    Um, not to put too fine a point on it, but there's a whole section of Christianity that considers the Catholic and Orthodox churches and their "Holy Tradition" to be utter BS. You might have heard of them, they're called Protestants.

    Catholic/Orthodox=Shiite/Sunni. I have studied the Great Schism, and Orthodoxy does have a pope, they just don't call him that. Calling Bartholomew I the Ecumenical Patriarch doesn't change the fact that he's the Pope of the East. Protestants believe that man does not need other men to intercede with God on his behalf. Or, as I like to put it - Christ didn't eliminate one corrupt priesthood just to saddle us with another.

    You definitely need to read Matthew 23. Then read it again. Perusing Matthew 5-7 wouldn't hurt either. You've lost sight of the ball...
     
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    Please don't conflate marxist pseudo progressive idiots with liberals
     
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    Judge dismissed it
     
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    By editng the clip the way they did proves them to be intentional liars
     
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    They already had a similar case tossed, so they probably aren't getting a dime for this either.
     
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    So CNN gets to lie about people in order to pursue their evil political agenda.
     
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    Free speech, as much as Trump and Trumpists hate it at times, covers quite a bit, including opinion.
     
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    Not opinion... it's a matter of fact the kid was acting in any racist matter but CNN portrayed the story in order to show him as a racist, that waa an intentional lie in order to destroy his character and thereby discredit Trump. It was 100% fake news.
    No judgment could be to harsh for CNN.
     
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    Did CNN call them racist? And, yes, that would still be opinion. Should Obama get to sue everyone who called him racist? No. Free speech exists for a reason. Trump says false things all of the time that get passed off as opinion.
     
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    When the president gets an entire crowed to support some idea to kick 4 American citizens and members of congress out for their opinion. And even the Jews claim it's a racist thing that Trump is doing... you got the GOP going... meh, freedom of speech.

    But if the free press does some honest reporting... it's all... sue them blind.
    oh the hypocrisy of the GOP.
     
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    Killing may not be a sin as long as that killing did not involve murder and serves a lawful purpose. If one's life is in immediate danger by another whose act may cause grevious injury or death to the first person, would you consider it be a crime or sin to defend one's life? Even if the aggressor was killed (but not murdered)?

    Thou shalt not murder.
     
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