COVID Death Toll Under Biden Set to Surpass Trump, In Less Time

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  1. Melb_muser

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    I love the search feature.

    Let's see all the BS you said:

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072404830/

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072167712/

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1071552425/

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1072305244/



    Don't you look foolish.
     
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    Wrong. You are always wrong.

    Please read books.
     
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    @FreshAir
     
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    the only thing Biden can do is threaten vaccine mandates to get the antivaxxers to get the jab

    but we all know the courts will eventually block this, the courts are intentionally dragging their feet so more get the vaccine (both left and right courts and the republican supreme court)
     
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    Please see my mention to you above and respond immediately.
     
  9. FAW

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    Aside from being hopelessly off topic and in bizarre non sequitur territory...."not of"?

    What does that mean?
     
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    sorry, the topic brought Trump into this, it's even in the title

    if you can't understand that, I can't help you
     
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    lol, I don't take orders from you
     
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    What does "not of" mean?

    BTW...We were discussing newly revealed data, and in response you keep rehashing your same talking points from 2021 that do not reflect the data being discussed in this thread. If you dont understand why that is a non sequitur, then I cannot help YOU.
     
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    if you can't figure it out, I can't help you

    and talking about how Trump plays into the new data is on topic
     
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    Trump followed the science and the expert... Biden started with 3 vaccines that was expedited thanks to Trump.
    There would still be no vaccines allowed on US markets until 2022 if not for the great work of Trump. There were 13.5 million vaccinated when he left office.
    https://www.newsweek.com/trump-leav...d-covid-falling-short-35-million-goal-1562684

    Trump followed the science and the expert. A favorite battle cry of the left.

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    Timeline of Trump's administration and CDC response to Covid. The first month only... the rest is the link..
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...ns-response-to-the-wuhan-coronavirus-n2566851

    January 3: CDC Director Robert Redfield sent an email to the director of the Chinese CDC, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus.

    January 5: CDC Director Redfield sent another email to the Chinese CDC Director, George Gao, formally offering to send U.S. experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak,

    January 6: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) issued a travel notice for Wuhan, China due to the spreading coronavirus.

    January 7: The CDC established a coronavirus incident management system to better share and respond to information about the virus.

    January 11: The CDC issued a Level I travel health notice for Wuhan, China.

    January 17: The CDC began implementing public health entry screening at the 3 U.S. airports that received the most travelers from Wuhan – San Francisco, New York JFK, and Los Angeles.

    January 20: Dr. Fauci announces the National Institutes of Health is already working on the development of a vaccine for the coronavirus.

    January 21: The CDC activated its emergency operations center to provide ongoing support to the coronavirus response.

    January 23: The CDC sought a “special emergency authorization” from the FDA to allow states to use its newly developed coronavirus test.

    January 27: President Trump tweeted that he made an offer to President Xi Jinping to send experts to China to investigate the coronavirus outbreak.

    January 27: The CDC issued a level III travel health notice urging Americans to avoid all nonessential travel to China due to the coronavirus.

    January 27: The White House Coronavirus Task Force started meeting to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.

    January 29: The White House announced the formation of the Coronavirus Task Force to help monitor and contain the spread of the virus and provide updates to the President.

    January 31: The Trump Administration:

    • Declared the coronavirus a public health emergency.
    • Announced Chinese travel restrictions.
    • Suspended entry into the United States for foreign nationals who pose a risk of transmitting the coronavirus.
    January 31: The Department of Homeland Security took critical steps to funnel all flights from China into just 7 domestic U.S. airports.
     
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    yep, and the majority of those that have died refused to get that vaccine, that is the point

    Biden has done all he can do, he can't fix stupid (though he is trying with the mandate)

    the science under Trump was saying the right things, Trump's mouth and tweets were the problem as they countered the message
     
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    You dont understand how disingenuous it is to continually reply with non sequiturs and strawman. Why on gods green earth would anyone need you to help them?

    I am a person that approaches a debate honestly. I will defend my points vigorously, but I do it honestly, and remain on topic. I do not understand someone that continually changes the subject and instead of anything productive being accomplished, they instead figuratively fling poo all over the place rather than honestly address the subject at hand. I do not understand what you get out of that? If you did not want to address the topic, why bother jumping into the conversation at all? This tactic seems like such a colossal waste of time.
     
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    acting like you don't understand something is not approaching a debate honestly

    I am on topic, you just want this to be a bash Biden thread without dealing with the facts that got up here, that is not how honest debates work
     
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    The vaccinated are also dying and being hospitalized.... The CDC stopped monitoring vaccinated breakthrough cases in May.... there is no data on those unvaccinated that had Covid and were not hospitalized and have natural immunity. Biden said we would not get Covid if vaccinated ...

    """the majority of those that have died refused to get that vaccine, that is the point"""
    I wonder why they would refuse the vaccine... oh yea... maybe this is the reason...
     
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    You are not on topic.

    This is basically how you are calling yourself on topic....

    I say.....In response to the OP I say....It is surprising that Biden has as many deaths as Trump given the fact that when he entered office there was already a vaccine and they had vastly improved treatment protocols at that time.

    Your response is "yep, Trump failed us,concerns about covid were not a hoax, Trump should not of played it down"

    That is not an honest response. You wholly ignored the new data that shows there are just as many deaths post trump as during Trump, which IS the topic of the thread as well as the topic of the post of mine to which you responded.

    That is most certainly NOT on topic. If you had bothered to actually engage in the conversation you would learn that my specific position is that neither trump nor Biden are likely very impactful for death totals for a worldwide pandemic which I have stated as much in this thread. Instead, you THINK you know my position because you assume everyone else is like you, and instead of allowing me to state what you THINK is my position, you respond with a non sequitur which refuses to address the actual topic. That is as dishonest as it gets.

    You are fooling no one other than yourself. This is what you do constantly. I just dont understand why you would spend so much time on this website only to continually do this in seemingly every conversation you hold. It is a colossal waste of time, and it is downright dishonest. I dont understand the appeal for being a professional poo flinger.
     
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    she said to take it and she would be first in line, talk about more spin from the right
     
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    the topic is not me, how many more posts you gonna post that are not on topic?
     
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    We both can happily agree to end this colossal waste of time.
     
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    It would be better if you did because your argument is spin.
     
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    You just keep repeating your pure HOGWASH and it is no less HOGWASH than when you first posted it.
    Your own worldmeters link does not count them that way and your other link says this: "a patient is considered medically recovered from COVID-19 after antibodies fighting the infection have successfully contained the virus, preventing the virus from replicating and supporting recovery. When they have no long-term health effects or disabilities, they are considered recovered."
    So by your own links your 2 to 6 weeks is pure HOGWASH!!!!!
     
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    I have more than proven my point, and am more than happy to let the reader decide for themselves.
     
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