Crimean Kerch Bridge destroyed?

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  1. Reality

    Reality Well-Known Member

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    The gains Ukrainian infantry and tanks have made do not occur in a theatre where the enemy controls the air.
     
  2. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    Didn't Biden just heroically get us out of a never ending war? The only difference here is whose blood is spilled. It's our treasurystill being thrown on the fire. Do we really want to go broke there?
     
  3. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't recall us talking about the free press .. and if we were ... would be you the free press making unconfortable ..along with rational thought and logic and not me .. so go tar others with your failings.. leave me out of it :)
     
  4. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    We're in no danger of "going broke" by supplying some arms to Ukraine.

    Invest in some defense stocks and enjoy.
     
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  5. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    We're not in danger of going broke, and Biden's abandonment of the Afghans was dishonorable.
     
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  6. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Then you should stop defending aggression.
     
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  7. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ukraine is Southern Russia
    Ref.: Kiev Rus


    Get Over It.
    An independent Ukraine has not
    defended democracy as much as
    establishing Ukrainian mafias. :woot: :(

    I support Natalia Poklonskaya
    anti mafia credentials as
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    Empress of Ukraine, subject to/of Moscow.


    Belarus, West Russia from those Kiev Rus
    is another absurdity but,
    I hear they have the best roads of the former
    USSR Republics


    Moi :oldman:





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  8. Poohbear

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    Yes, there is psychobabble, but it aint coming from the Pentagon.
    From the earliest warnings that Putin would invade Ukraine till today - the Pentagon/President/intelligence service have been mostly right about what would happen next. Where they got it wrong was that Ukraine could win - but even here Ukraine only won because of NATO and USA retraining and resupplying Ukraine.
     
  9. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    That depends on who you ask. When I don't have money to pay a debt that indicates that I'm broke. Doesn't it work that way for a country or State?
     
  10. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    No, actually, it doesn't.
     
  11. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not really.
     
  12. Heartburn

    Heartburn Well-Known Member

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    So then SS isn't in trouble and should be increased rather than cut?
     
  13. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Benefits are fully funded through 2037. SS is in good shape.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Given what assumptions ?
     
  15. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Business as usual.

    As a result of changes to Social Security enacted in 1983, benefits are now expected to be payable in full on a timely basis until 2037, when the trust fund reserves are projected to become exhausted.

    The Future Financial Status of the Social Security Program
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only "As Usual" here is you have no idea what you are talking about :) -- have not read the links you post .. and already backtracking using the word "expected"

    expected that certain things hold .. such as the Gov't doesn't go bankrupt .. due to interest on our debt.
     
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  17. Heartburn

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    Another thing that depends on who you are talking to.
     
  18. zoom_copter66

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    Is it winter yet in Canada....Moi621?
     
  19. zoom_copter66

    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Nope...we're supplying Ukraine with our cast offs....and Russkis are getting their butts kicked with it.
     
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  20. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    The text is from the Social Security Administration, in the link. Now peddle your sky-is-falling narrative elsewhere.
     
  21. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    My data are from the Social Security Administration.
     
  22. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not cast-offs.
     
  23. Sallyally

    Sallyally Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don’t think they want to be Russian.
     
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    Ukraine Conflict Updates

    Key Takeaways

    • Russian forces conducted massive missile strikes across Ukraine for the second day in a row.
    • Army General Sergey Surovikin’s previous experience as commander of Russian Armed Forces in Syria is likely unrelated to the massive wave of missile strikes across Ukraine over the past few days, nor does it signal a change in the trajectory of Russian capabilities or strategy in Ukraine.
    • The Russian Federation is likely extracting ammunition and other materiel from Belarusian storage bases, which is incompatible with the notion that Russian forces are setting conditions for a ground attack against Ukraine from Belarus.
    • Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued to conduct counteroffensives east of the Oskil River and in the direction of Kreminna-Svatove.
    • Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian troops continued ground attacks in northern and western Kherson Oblast.
    • Ukrainian forces are continuing an interdiction campaign to target Russian military, technical, and logistics assets and concentration areas in Kherson Oblast.
    • Russian forces continued to conduct ground assaults in Donetsk Oblast.
    • Russian reporting of explosions in Dzhankoy, Crimea, indicated panic over losing further logistics capabilities in Crimea following the Kerch Strait Bridge explosion.
    • Russian federal subjects are announcing new extensions and phases of mobilization in select regions, which may indicate that they have not met their mobilization quotas.
    • Russian and occupation administration officials continue to conduct filtration activities in Russian-occupied territories. . . .
    Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces continued to conduct offensive operations east of the Oskil River in the direction of Kreminna and Svatove on October 11. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian forces repelled Ukrainian forces near Krokhmalne in Kharkiv Oblast (20km northwest of Svatove) and Stel’makhivka in Luhansk Oblast (15km northwest of Svatove).[19] The Russian MoD also claimed that Ukrainian forces unsuccessfully attempted to cross the Zherebets River southwest of Svatove in the direction of Raihorodka and Novovodiane, Luhansk Oblast, on October 11.[20] [21] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces are regrouping and restoring combat capabilities near Kupyansk to prepare for assaults near the Pershotravneve-Kyslivka line.[22] The milblogger also claimed that Ukrainian forces are concentrating personnel and equipment in the Lyman-Svatove direction to launch an offensive on Svatove and Kreminna with a strike group of up to 40,000 personnel.[23] ISW makes no effort to forecast Ukrainian operations or to evaluate the likelihood of Russian forecasts about them. . . .

    Russian sources continued to claim that Ukrainian troops conducted ground attacks in northern and western Kherson Oblast on October 11. The Russian MoD claimed that two Ukrainian battalion tactical groups (BTGs) conducted offensive operations in the direction of Borozenske and Piatykhatky—both along the current Davydiv Brid-Dudchany frontline in northern Kherson Oblast and about 35km from the critical Russian-controlled town of Beryslav.[28] A Russian milblogger similarly indicated that Ukrainian troops are preparing to advance south of the Davydiv Brid-Dudchany line and conducting artillery preparations for subsequent attacks on Russian positions in the direction of Beryslav.[29] Russian milbloggers additionally indicated that Ukrainian troops are attempting to reinforce positions in the Davydiv Brid area (western Kherson Oblast near the Mykolaiv Oblast border and along the Inhulets River) to prepare for advances to the southeast.[30] Several Russian sources reported that Ukrainian troops attempted to attack toward Bruskynske (6km south of Davyvid Brid), Ishchenka (8km southeast of Davydiv Brid), and Sadok (12km southeast of Davydiv Brid).[31] ISW offers no evaluation of these Russian claims regarding likely future Ukrainian operations or force groupings. . . .
     
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    Matters not where the text that your claim arose was from. You were asked a question about what assumptions were made .. were hopelessly lost .. and now try to call a simple question a "sky is falling" narrative.

    Just because you are stumped once again .. doesn't mean the sky is falling mate..
     

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