Cuccinelli losing by 17%

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  1. thebrucebeat

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    It's gotten so bad for the Right with Cuccinelli, that Jim Geraghty at "National Review" wrote a piece today talking about the GOP candidate for Attorney General being ahead in the polls and trying to point to him as some "good news for the Republicans in VA".
     
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    Actually, the Republican establishment ha transferred its' funding to the Attorney General race, basically ignoring Cuccinelli. I think Ken is too conservative for the establishment. He's having to rely on outside sources putting ads together for him. It's unfortunate, because he's a great Conservative voice and would make an excellent Governor, as he is an excellent Constitutional Conservative Attorney General.

    McCauliffe would be disastrous for this state.

    Libertarians are going to screw this up for us, I think.
     
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    Told ya...

     
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    Well, if the Republican establishment wasn't so liberal and actually put some effort into the campaign, he'd probably be leading the pack... They're destroying their own party and don't even realize it.
     
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    Naturally, none of what Cuccineli has done or said is unpopular with voters???
     
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    Not surprising. Has more to do with the asinine partial shutdown Cruz and gang pushed. Virginia is VERY dependent on the federal government.
     
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    Rasmussen is the clear outlier by a long shot. The Huffpo poll had it at 7% so it has narrowed some. Sarvis will not perform as well as he polls. It is probably still a 5 point race.
     
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    Cuccinelli like Rick Scott in fla have millions of teaparty bucks flowing in from outside the state and it hasnt done much for either of their positions. I believe the teaparty may very well realize theres consequences for demanding and stonewalling what most of the american people want.
    If you were to believe all the forums speak, the teaparty has the support of most of america and they are somehow actually winning something. When the truth is the teaparty has the support of a very small minority. Republican voters and independents are dropping them and you have business interests changing direction and financing the search for primary challengers to Teaparty Candidates. There has been a definite change in attitude toward the teaparty.
     
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    Cuccinelli is a Pat Roberston protoge, an extremist right wing social conservative.

    I doubt that he would make a good governor.

    Of course, I didn't care much for Bob McDonnell either, but he's been pretty good as a governor, dispite his scandal.

    I have my doubts about McCauliffe as well. "The Macker" may be good at wheedling campaign money out of Langley society hostesses, but that does not necessarily a great leader make.
     
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    You mean factually? No. McAuliffe has been running lie after lie in this race, which typically happens in elections. Liberals are allowed to lie, while Conservatives need to play defense and prove innocence.

    That being said, the lies are being exposed and Cuccinelli is closing the gap. Check your own link above. That 17% has turned into 8.3%.
     
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    You're parroting concerns of the Republican establishment, which does not even represent its own base. This is why they continue to lose elections.
     
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    They lose elections for one reason, they are not on the same page as most american voters. Dont try and translate a few district wins in the house of representatives last election as a HUGE change in voter beliefs its plainly not
    Alan West won a district in fla easily, got into office did Absolutely nothing but run his mouth and spout vitriole and bs like Ted cruz and he promplty got unelected by the same voters ang they guy he took it off took back.
     
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    That's actually about a half point increase in the spread. When Rasmussen was the 17% outlier the RCP average was about 7.7%. It isn't getting closer. The lead is widening.
     
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    If 40% of the United States is Conservative, as Gallup suggests, and 20% are Liberal... why wouldn't they cater to their base Conservatives, rather than to moderates or Centrists? It doesn't make any sense. You're ignoring 40% of the population, while going after 35%. You're never going to win the Liberal vote, so stop trying... Stop changing the message, stop attempting to go moderate, and you'll gain the full backing of your party base, you'll cease splitting the vote between Libertarians and Conservatives and you'll probably pull some moderates to your side, since many of them are Fiscally Conservative.

    West lost in a Liberal district by .7% (2,429 votes). That's your go-to for public opinion? Give me a break. In fact, I bet a recount would have resulted in different results, but they required a .5% difference.
     
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    Damn Ken is my favorite politician from all over the world and i would love to see how a society reacts when blowjobs are banned.
     
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    I dont know if your numbers are right or not but far right cruze and convervative are two different things and with that 40% you conveniently included ALL republicans and the 20Liberal you left out the rest of democrats..
    The far left and the far right are the same in that most of america doesnt like either of them.
     
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    "Most of Amerika" is bankrupting the treasury and posterity; watching Amerikan Idol while a surveillance police state is being built up around them; 'twerking' and texting their little thumbs numb while the EPA is catagorizing CO2 a "pollutant" and working feverishly to seize control of their thermostats and harm our power grid; accepting the collapse of our borders; accepting the complete devaluation of our currency; accepting the takeover of their medical decisions and care; accepting that 90 million working age people are out of work as 'okay' as long as a black guy in the Oval Office says it's okay; accepting the bailout of corporations; accepting special treatment for special interests; on and on...

    "Most of Amerika" is nothing more than a cesspool of knuckle dragging morons.
     
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    My numbers are derived from Gallup. Cruz is Conservative. He's far right of moderate Republicans, who are no longer Conservative. The 40% of Conservatives in the country are not all Republicans... in fact, it has nothing to do with party, it has everything to do with ideology. You go after the 40%, not the segment that might or might not be within that 40% (Republicans).

    Mainstream media doesn't like Conservatives, so they call them extremists and far-right. The Republicans are a bunch of half-wit phonies who trust that the mainstream media is reporting with their best interests in mind. Here's a newsflash... the mainstream liberal media doesn't want Republicans or Conservatives to win elections. Neither do Democrats, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, or any other leftist wing of the Democratic Party. Why would the Republican Party play the PC game and take the word of a bunch of liberals, who tell them "If they want the independent vote, they're going to have to support amnesty, obamacare, high taxes, etc." It's crap. In this electoral process, the Democrats are actually the smart ones of the bunch. The Republican establishment is filled with useful idiots who do as the Democrats suggest.
     
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    Nope! The extremists in the Tea Party are destroying the GOP. . .and the REAL Republicans have finally understood that.

    It might be too late for the to save this race. . .but they hope they can still save the 2014 elections. . .but the likes of Cruz are not making it easy!
     
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    The "REAL" Republicans are liberal Republicans. They're a shadow of their former selves and no longer worthy of carrying the Republican banner. Their new banner should be an elephant with a donkey's head up its ass.
     
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    I see the "real Republicans" as being somewhat moderate conservative, open to social evolution, but more concerned about economic conservatism than moderate Liberals.

    But I admit that this is merely an opinion, and not really that different from what you stated.

    I think their new banner may be with the elephant being water boarded with the tea party's tea!
     
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    I hope you dont live here and if you do you can easily find a place to go :) and dont let the doory hitya on the way out
     
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    Kev Ill be sure to check back with you after the midterms and the republican party loses elections because they are on the wrong side of what most americans believe.
    If you believe ted cruz can win a national election, well good luck with that.
     
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    Kevin with all due respect that is just garbage taken out of the koch bros sop directive to the cruzebots. The traditional gop were able to govern and do so they only way it ever gets done via compromise. Ted Cruze has accomplished nothing.
    The Gop will not have a new banner, Cruze will eventually get a new closet to sit in
     

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