Cuccinelli losing by 17%

He said yesterday he was hoping for only 30%, but expected about mid 30's.

 

It's called an informed "verdict," derived through years of conversation.

You need to define "federal aid," because it can mean a lot of different things, including, but not limited to Medicare, Agriculture and Defense Spending. http://247wallst.com/special-report/2012/08/03/states-that-get-the-most-federal-money/

Yeah, it's a "conspiracy." Whatever helps you sleep better at night. Advanced education can be a good thing for the nation, but not as it is right now. Indoctrination is currently destroying this nation.

 

How about to send a representative of our choosing to the general elections to represent us?

Yes, they wouldn't have been afraid to speak truth to power, backhand the media and take Obama to task. Romney performed poorly, because he wouldn't do these things in addition to never admitting the truth about RomneyCare, which is actually a failure. At first, it looked like he would hold Obama's feet to the fire, but he lost steam relatively quickly and sifted into moderate territory. He was the absolute last choice for Conservatives - they backed every other candidate before him and many just said "to hell with it," and stayed home instead of voting. The Republican establishment's choice in Presidential nominees have now lost twice in a row (electoral and popular vote). McCain lost by 8 million votes, while Romney lost by 5 million. They were both unpopular, especially considering 2000 and 2004 popular votes were both very close (1 million in 2000 and 2.5 million in 2004). People are sick of the choices that the establishment gives them.

 

lol, who mentioned anything about Christianity before you stepped in? I could name a plethora of Christian Universities that partake in the indoctrination that I speak of, anyway. Georgetown? Harvard? Princeton? American? There are more than 800 Christian Universities, half of which are probably guilty of indoctrinating their students. Hell, Georgetown was just in the news last year for Sandra Fluke and their pushing the birth control issue.

Your deep-seeded hatred for Christianity is clouding your judgment. There are other things, such as economics and history which can be altered through revisionism. The popular economic policy of the day is Keynesian economics. Tell me that's not being perpetuated by most Universities, when the policy has been proven to fail, time and time again.

 

Regardless of the level of formal education, simply having the ability to evaluate reality in a rational way might easily lead to the ability to note falsehood and corruption in political movement. This ability would eventually lead to a distaste for this aspect in the morality of many people of certain ethical understanding. While many who lean Liberal in government are corrupted in such a way...the preponderance is on the right as of late.

Having little more than a high school education, yet a lifelong desire to learn.....I may not know as much, but I do know what is right....to ME.

 

She doesn't like Americorps... most conservatives don't. It was created by liberals with a liberal agenda. Some insight: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/10/rotten-to-the-americorps/

Also, what does her Son having "volunteered" for Americorps have anything to do with her stance? Do you have kids? If so, do they do everything you ask them to or do they refrain from doing things you tell them not to do?

You're ignoring my arguments for why this happens. I'd rather not repeat myself, so please read back.

No, they really didn't... They were pushed out by Liberals and the Republican establishment. If you don't know that, then you're not paying attention. Please remind me what happened to Herman Cain during the primaries?

 

You don't even know what you're talking about. You're a liberal trying to play referee for the Republican Primaries... You're supposed to know what Conservatives want in a candidate? You're supposed to know about the GOP establishment and how it chooses our candidates? Give me a break. I know the rotten deals we've been dealt and it's to do with the mainstream media and the GOP establishment.

Why do you think the TEA Party even formed? Why do you think the Libertarian Party is more popular than ever? Why do you think Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levine, Sean Hannity, et al. have huge followings that put Liberal talk shows to shame? Why do you think Fox News kicks the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of the competition on a daily basis? Conservatives are on the rise, but don't have a party. The GOP establishment still runs the party circus and the mainstream media influences them, in addition to waging a war of attrition on Conservatives. It happened to Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Christine O'Donnell, etc. - name a Conservative candidate and they've been attacked, relentlessly.

Don't believe me about the Republican establishment? Look at how Ron Paul was treated at the 2012 GOP Convention.

 

Why would she not warn her son against joining an organization that she claimed was going to send him to a "re-education camp" to become a liberal?!?!?!?

Not at all. You either claim the "mainstream media" FOOLS conservative voters in GOP Primaries. Or conservative voters' views don't matter, because the "GOP Establishment" decides who will be the Nominee.

See above. According to your theories, conservative voters in the GOP Primaries are either the PUPPETS of the Lib'rul Media....or IMPOTENT before the power of the Republican establishment.

 

Because rightwingers who dutifully supported George W. Bush ....ignored his deficits....his trillion dollar war "off the books"......wanted to pretend they were "something new" after McCain/Palin lost, going into 2009, so people wouldn't ask "Hey, weren't you the same guys who supported Dubya all those years and never said a word about deficits and spending?"

Yet....there is ZERO evidence that the Tea Party was "bipartisan" or even "non-partisan". They were and are ...the exact same Republican voters as before 2009.

You even admit it...when you list "Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levine, Sean Hannity...Herman Cain, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachman, Christine O'Donnell"....all of whom are loyal Republicans come Election Day.

 

Who said she didn't?

We've been talking about those two, issues, yes. But there's certainly more to it than that.

Yep, you're actively ignoring much of my argument.

 

So her son didn't go for her nuttiness either, huh?

Two big ones you keep bringing up...both of which cast the conservative voters in a bad light. If the "mainstream media"....those voters are easily manipulated stooges. If the "GOP Establishment"....those voters are impotent and powerless.

Again, on the contrary, I'll run with your premises. You simply never throught it all the way through. In your grasping for excuses, you never realized you were painting your own ideological brethren as gullible fools (who fell for "mainstream media lies")....or helpless before the power of the "GOP Establishment". Stupid or weak.....by your theories.

 

Conservatives were outspoken about Bush for a variety of reasons. Many, including myself, started griping about his politics in 2007, when he was coming out in favor of amnesty. Then there was outrage about his stimulus. The Tea Party finally formed as a result of TARP being passed. No one was against the War on Terror, until it was popular to do so... Liberals loved it before they were against it.

The Tea Party was formed by Republicans, Democrats and Libertarians. Just because you choose to ignore it, doesn't mean it's not happening.

It's just difficult to find a liberal in a place of power and/or with a loud voice to acknowledge the Tea Party, since it goes against everything they stand for. You won't find a Democratic politician in favor of the Tea Party, because they're more in favor of spending other people's money, filling their pockets with that same money and expanding government.

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That's funny, I don't recall myself ever saying that.

 

I do. I brought up the same hilarious irony of your previous post stating exactly this.

 

Conservatives (especially the media figures you noted, Rush, Hannity, etc.) made NO critical remarks about Dubya....until the GOP lost the Congress in 2006. And even then it was tepid at best.

How many Democratic candidates received a Tea Party endorsement in a general election? Name them all....given how "bipartisan" TP supposedly is.

You just contradicted your claim that Tea Party included Democrats.

What did you blame the losses of Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Gingrich on in the 2012 Primaries?

The "Mainstream Media"....which means GOP primary voters were manipulated by the Media, and thus gullible.

or the "GOP Establishment"....which means non-Establishment primary voters are powerless before the power of the Establishment in picking a Nominee.

Now...try other excuses. It's a good bet any you come up with will fall into the same premise....that conservative primary voters in 2012 were either stupid or impotent. Go ahead...try.

 

It's an issue that Rightwing Radio fans have on political blogs.

The same "memory hole" attempts to claim "I didn't say that" that their Mentors on radio can get away with (No way Rush will play a tape of himself being shown to be wrong or contradictory...is there?)....doesn't work on blogs, where their statements are permanent and re-postable.

Kevin thinks he can say stuff...and it's "gone"...evaporated into the ether. Unfortunately, it's not. So when he contradicts himself...or boxes himself into a logical position that works against him....he has no way to deny it, since the posts are clear for all to see.

Rush (just as much as Dick Morris) claimed it was going to be "Romney landslide"....but he never mentions it, so the ditto-heads don't believe it happened. (BTW, easy to access in the archives). And he goes on making new predictions and expects to be taken seriously and with credibility. And his audience never is the wiser.

A ditto-head blogger posts that same "Romney landslide" stuff....the post can be bumped (if not erased in the PF Archives)....and is made to look foolish.

 

So, you can dismiss how folks who disagree with you in political matters actually regard themselves., because your opinion of them is all that matters.

I find the notion that better-educated folks are being duped into voting dumb to be a very silly one, actually. I'd say that, on the whole, the less-educated are apt to be less savvy and more easily duped.

 

Do you listen to Rush or Hannity? Didn't think so. What difference does it make what they said, anyway? You should know that Conservatives were up in arms about Amnesty in 2007/2008, due to the massive amounts of calls into the Congress switch board prior to the vote. Conservatives shut it down. They acted in kind with the stimulus and TARP.

You're ignoring what I said... again. Democratic candidates do not run to decrease the size of government. They run to expand it. They don't want to decrease spending, they want to increase it. They don't want to decrease taxes, they want to increase them. They don't accept the Tea Party, they attack it. Democrats IN the TEA Party agree with the principles of the TEA Party... not Democratic candidates. If you listened to my local radio station, you'd hear from some Democrats who are members of the TEA Party and claim to be "Kennedy Democrats" and some "Reagan Democrats." They're out there, but they don't align themselves with the Socialists that run the DNC.

No, I didn't. You're just failing to understand.

The GOP didn't back any of them - they were too conservative for the establishment. They propped Romney across the nation with advertisements and get out the vote campaigns, with party funding. They didn't do this for any of the other candidates, who had to rely on their own funding. They also didn't come to bat for the Conservative nominees who were under fire by the liberal media.

The mainstream media uses Attrition Warfare tactics to kill Conservative competition. That's how at least 1-2 Conservatives were forced out of the election in 2012.

The mainstream media is also still held in high regard by the GOP establishment, and the establishment wants to remain in "good standing" with them. There are also some GOP voters who still watch, read and listen to the liberal mainstream media (far and few between, but some do), and when they hear this point of view about how the Conservatives are all radical, right-wing extremists who want to take women's rights away, and when they don't hear other views, they're going to pull for who sounds the more "acceptable" to the media. This doesn't mean they're stupid or impotent - it just means they're being lied to by the mainstream media.

Then there are moderates and liberals who watch the same tripe and fall for the same tricks, which leads them to vote RINO or Democrat.

You're missing half the argument, because you're not interested in hearing it. You're more interested in attacking me, which is a fruitless effort, because I'm just trying to have a conversation with you... I'm not running for office.

 

Why did I mention "Christian education?" because it fits PERFECTLY into your rant against "educated people" who, in your opinion, are more likely to be brained washed by propaganda!. . .which obviously is a ridiculous concept, unless you apply it to people educated in "Christian Right" ideology". . .as I explained before.

And you, once again, assume a LOT about someone you know NOTHING about! You see, I AM a Christian, and certainly NOT a Christian hater. I do admit I am a "recovered Catholic," (but this Pope might actually change that if he keeps on being logical and follow the REAL intent of Christ!), and I do not have much respect for ANY organized religion because of the man made dogmas that are piled up onto the REAL will of God. You see, what I do hate is the ridiculous religious dogmas that assume so much CRAP from the Bible. . .but CHOOSE to ignore the part of the Bible that do not "match their agenda!"

It is the HYPOCRISY among the hyper religious that I hate!

But. . .in any case, your assumption that "educated people" are more likely to buy into propaganda is (in my opinion) ridiculous!

 

And that is what matter! Although education can HELP people who have little confidence into their own ability to think and tend to be "followers" to think more critically and to detect "illogical" or untruth propaganda, there is NOTHING better than a innate sense of right and wrong, and the ability of an intelligent person (no matter the level of education) to trust one's critical thinking sense rather than the brainwashing offered to him/her!

And you hit the nail on the head: The DESIRE to learn, rather than being "stuffed with (right or wrong) knowledge) will keep someone from just buying into easy swallowed propaganda!

 

When you get outvoted, it doesn't mean you're disenfranchised, it means the democratic process is working. Anyhow, your "true conservative" candidates did plenty to sink their own ships. Michele Bachmann promoted the idea that the HPV vaccine can cause mental retardation. That is not conservatism, that's harmful idiocy.

 

McCauliffe is the governor-elect.

 

And VA becomes MD Light. "Yay!"

 

You're missing the point. The GOP backs their guy, not the Conservative choice. McCain wasn't popular, Romney wasn't popular. When they don't represent their base and opt to throw all of their money behind a RINO, it doesn't give the Conservatives a shot. I'm sorry you don't see the importance of campaign financing, advertising and getting out circulars, etc.

 

Oh, and btw... Democratic Plant: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/362690/sarvis-libertarian-nope-charles-c-w-cooke

 

One of THE top states, you're correct. Everybody either works for Walmart, or the city, or the state.