Democratic Presidents Clinton, Obama left a legacy of political pardoning

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  1. Josephwalker

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    Every single charge led to a dead end and or lies and corruption by democrat operatives
     
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  2. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Obamagate. LOL, yeah, you keep running with that one as the Country votes Biden into office.
     
  3. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    it’s not what trump is running on, but it’s certainly worth reminding the american people of the massive corruption and assault on our Republic and rule of law from the obamagate gang...which include quid pro joe
     
  4. Bluesguy

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    Did the agents that interviewed him report he lied to them? The agents and FBI YOU believe to be honest and forthright?

    Here's the problem, you and I both know they didn't but being the deep state swamp they tried to hide that in order to pursue Flynn and charge him with something in order to get at Trump. So again did the FBI agents who interviewed him believe he was being deceptive and knowingly telling a lie? What do their notes say?
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    Yah, sometimes cover ups work.
     
  6. struth

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    and sometimes they don’t...as we are learning about obamagate
     
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  7. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    It's apples and oranges to you because you don't have a leg to stand on. What you don't understand is people died because of what Oscar Lopez did versus Stone getting convicted for lying to Congress which is so funny because now we know some of the Coup plotters went on their favorite networks saying Russian collusion but in front of Congress they told the truth. No collusion. It's all laughable. Anyway, you'll never agree with me and I'll never agree with you. So I'm sure you'll call me a name or claim you won so that's fine. You're a big man I get it. Tough guy.
     
  8. Andrew Jackson

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    So what?

    A lot of "people DIED because of what Trump did" (due to his massive failure and mismanagement in the early stages of the virus outbreak).

    Would you be in favor of Pres. Biden pardoning Ex-President Trump?

    In any event, the entire "premise" of the article is completely premature.

    Since everyone knows, that after Trump is defeated in the upcoming November Election, he will issue a massive number of Pardons and Commutations.
     
  9. icehole3

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    Here are some new notes from the coup plotting FBI agents. Just released yesterday. More hard iron clad evidence for the Libs to just blow off. These dudes must be China bots.

    Full doc
    https://www.scribd.com/document/468702127/US-v-Flynn-DOJ-July-2020-Production

    Appears that part of the Boente notes were previously leaked to Maddow.
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    Tashina Gauhar notes from 1/25/17 meeting with the FBI - the day after the Flynn interview.
    FBI assessed Flynn believed he was telling the truth.

    FBI: Flynn knows we have tech cuts, was affirmative in his answers.
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    3/30/17 - Dana Boente notes from meeting with Comey.
    Michael Flynn: "Do not view as source of collusion."
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    1/30/17 DOJ(?) Memo:

    "FBI advised that they believed Flynn believed what he was saying was true."

    FBI determined "Flynn was not acting as an agent of Russia."
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  10. icehole3

    icehole3 Well-Known Member

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    Is that what you CNN poll tells you.

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  11. The Mello Guy

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    Nothing to cover up, nobody has even been charged with even a process crime.
     
  12. struth

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    then why did they work so hard to cover it up?

    it took you all 2.5 years to find something to charge Stone with...obamagate was exposed a few months ago...don’t worry the sun light is exposing the dems darkness and will cleanse that dark spot on our nation
     
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  13. WalterSobchak

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    Nah. Obamagate is fake news.

    Trump is running on what he did in 2016. Try to find a scapegoat to pin his failures on and only fire up his base. He is failing miserably convincing Independents to vote for him.
     
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    So you are OK believing the deep state swamp rats at the FBI if it makes your argument look better. LOL Figures.

    Oh, and let's never forget this........

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    LOL!

    :roflol:

    Get some cheese to go with that whine.

    I've never called you or anyone else here a name.

    As for testimony before congress, plenty of (now former) administration personnel testifed to Russian interference in the 2016 election. I watched all of them. The Mueller report went into great detail about contacts between several Trump campaign officials, including Roger Stone, and dozens of Russian operatives. You should try reading it. It was Mueller's call that there wasn't enough evidence to prove a conspiracy, a decision that many disagree with, especially that Trump Tower meeting between several Russians and Junior, Kushner, and Manafort, who all attended because dirt of Hillary was promised. Junior got off via the "too stupid to know it was a crime" defense.

    And btw, I'm pretty tough, but I'm definitely not a guy. I do enjoy it when people make that assumption, though.
     
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  16. struth

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    obamagate is trump’s failure? sounds like it was obama and his gangs failure now the brady evidence the mueller team was hiding has been exposed.
     
  17. WalterSobchak

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    Obamagate is fake news.
     
  18. struth

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    only to the dembots that excuse corruption
     
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    The number of pardons/commutations argument is a fake argument. No one is criticizing Trump for he NUMBER of pardons/commutations. They are criticizing him for pardoning his campaign pals for crimes they committed for his campaign/administration . . . one recent example being a guy who bragged that he "did not flip" on Trump when he was questioned.
     
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  20. icehole3

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    I apologize for that.
     
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    ROFL no they lied and tried to cover it up and got caught. You are the one that believed them are you now saying they lied in their notes?

    You mean his statement before the facts came out...........and?
     
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    And why weren't Brennan and Clapper and Clinton and Comey charged with making false statements to Congress?
     
  23. The Mello Guy

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    Probably because most of them didn’t. One lied when asked about a classified program, which frankly seems better than being charged with mishandling classified intel.
    Why wasn’t Sessions charged with lying to Congress?
     
  24. Bluesguy

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    Nope they did and the Obama administration did not charge them.
     
  25. The Mello Guy

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    No they didn’t, otherwise the trump admin would have charged them.
     

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