Derek Chauvin Appeals Murder Conviction, Claims Protesters Intimidated Jury

Floyd was not on drugs. It is a shame that RWers need to stray from historical records.

 

He most certainly was, it's listed at length in the coroners report. I'm not a rw, thanks for guessing.

 

Cause of death was neck compression and asphyxiation, not drugs.

 

His report had a pleathura of drugs listed in his system which caused the whole issue. Have you not read the report?

 

Floyd was as he was jacked up on all the drugs he had swallowed trying to hide them from the police.

 

No he did not and no he did not.

 

You’re repeating what I said. I absolutely confirmed the family paid for one. There was an official(as in done by the government and not paid for by the family of the deceased)one done by the ME who did not find that to be the case. So it’s a matter of who you want to believe. The official report or the paid for by he family of the deceased report. That’s why I said it doesn’t exactly back that up and I explained why.

Because of the two competing reports, it’s hard to say that it absolutely occurred. Also, you said “coroner” which would be the official report that does not state asphyxiation.

 

Wrong the coroner ruled what I posted. This stuff is on record. !!!

 

BS, in the article I provided, neck compression and asphyxiation.

 

yup.

https://famous-trials.com/george-floyd/2648-george-floyd-the-toxicology-report
Wow, that's a lot of drugs. AND...

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthe...topsy/4c5bdf52fbbd775ce156/optimized/full.pdf

cardiopulmonary arrest.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd

Asphyxiation and neck compression !!!

 

Neck compression does not equal asphyxiation. MMA fighters do neck compression techniques to submit their opponents. They are not choking to death(asphyxiation), the blood flow to your brain gets cut off and you pass out.

Your article clearly states there are two reports, one that is the official report(the coroner you mentioned where nowhere does it state asphyxiation) and the one paid for by Floyd’s family(that does say asphyxiation).

 

you must be aware anyone, myself included, can go over there and update wiki with new and false information, yes? my sources stand in a court, wiki does not.

 

BS the neck is most vulnerable area on a person. In the wiki article it clearly states asphyxiation from the 2nd coroner. That evidence was used in the trial.

 

The coroner reports from wiki were used as evidence in the trial.

 

The coroner reports I POSTED were used in court and they show him on a huge cocktail of drugs. The company hired by the family got paid to say what the family wanted to get a payoff. We know the first report is accurate and not biased.

 

sure but for 99.99% of things wiki is just fine

 

Okay, so Floyd was already dead at that point. Why does that make what Chauvin did all that terrible?

 

Accidental killing. And his actions were partially/almost justified.

 

Keeping the knee for 9 minutes is a mostly irrelevant fact if the suspect was already dead, wouldn't you agree?

He was probably dead after the first 2 minutes.
So it's doubtful that the excessive amount of knee time is what led to his death.

This was a suspect who weighed 223 pounds and had a muscular build. Officers were struggling to be able to control him even with handcuffs on. He seemed to be acting hysterically emotional and not entirely rationally.

What if he had managed to get up and run into traffic? Then maybe he, or one of the officers chasing him would have been hit.

Officer Chauvin, for example, weighed only 140 pounds.

You just don't get it.

 

I take it you don’t watch MMA. Here’s a link talking about different submissions, some require neck compression but are not asphyxiating people:

https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/896365-the-25-most-painful-submissions-in-mma.amp.html

Yes it was and I have stated that that report exists. What you don’t seem to understand is that neck compression does not equal asphyxiation. There is also an official report, not paid for by the family of George Floyd that does not state asphyxiation at all. You do understand that, right? If so, can you also understand how the two conflicting reports make it hard to say that without a shadow of a doubt he was asphyxiated?

Edit: the more I think on it…. Do you know what asphyxiation is?

 

You aint no coroner. In fact, the coroner showed up during the trial. Maybe you should quote that expert witness and source what he said.

 

You aint no expert in what cops are allowed to do when they got a person incapacitated due to having him handcuffed behind his back.
In fact, a police expert showed up during the trial. Maybe you should quote that expert witness and source what he said.

 

That was a major problem in the trial.
The coroner expressed his opinion, but it was stated as if it were a fact, when it wasn't.

The jury apparently wasn't smart enough to draw that critical distinction.

Common sense would tend to mostly disagree with the coroner's opinion that was expressed in court.

 

A major problem for Chauvin and white supremacists...

Heck. I do believe even Chauvin's won boss was on the stand causing a heck of a lot of problems for Chauvin and white supremacists. Because the things that cop said under oath, was not what Chauvin hoped for. And how could you claim you defend the blue, when the blue doesn't defend their bad apple? In this case... bad apples. Because them other 3 cops on the scene played their role in that murder case. And it's more like some kind of fungus hit the apple tree. Because there are loads of them like that.