Dershowitz: Jan. 6 Panel 'Doctored the Tape,' Edited Out Trump's Words

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  1. RodB

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    You will notice in #398 that for the umpteenth time he cannot answer you post with any specifics.
     
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    I accept your concession, you simply repeat meaningless nonsense about Dersh keeping his undies on? It means nothing.
     
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    Also @Hey Now The lack of a conviction does not mean the prosecution didn't prove its case(indeed, the jury openly said that the prosecution overwhelmingly proved its case: IE: Sussman lied to the FBI) but they didn't think it was worth prosecuting. One curious glance at the Flynn trial wonders if he'd have a similarly favorable outcome.

    Prosecutors are at the whim of two parties: The judge(who is predisposed towards the prosecution) and the jury(who might be swayed.) in this case, the jury made up of those left-leaning didn't want to prosecute one of their own for crimes clearly committed. Honestly, given the political webs of these concurrent cases, one wonders if our system can survive or is able to survive a political-judicial slant. Because bias one way or another taints investigations and has both sides crying foul.
     
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  5. Hey Now

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    Pocket waving the white flag after being destroyed for stupidity is Trumpian and sandbox play for fools.
    Dersh is an underwear wearing molester.
     
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  6. RodB

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    All rationale and logical comments. However, it is important to remember the significant differences between the cases. Sussmann's guilt was open and shut. However it was not a real serious crime (though it is often prosecuted as such) and very hard to win a prosecution as it requires much more than simply being untruthful to the FBI. IMO, Durham's main purpose was to get other stuff out, not to win the case (but what do I know). Flynn's case was totally different because he was not guilty of any wrong doing, and besides he was misled and duped under false pretense into his prosecution.. He did at first admit to crimes but that was only to reduce the virtual beatings he was getting from Mueller and to save his son from the same treatment.

    The other case that @Bluesguy keeps asking for rebuttals on, the Clinton, Fusion, Steele, DOJ, FBI, MSM situation, has clear cut known wrong doing, but what actual crime was committed is a bit fuzzy, and in any case extremely hard to prove in a court of law.
     
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  7. Hey Now

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    Dersh has zero cred and is definitely being blackmailed for his lolita proclivities. It's extremely likely the child was financially "silenced". Bought off for her silence, it's how these folks roll.
     
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    So you admit your surrender?

    Like what? He's proven his accuser a liar time and again. She never flew with the Clintons, she never had lunch with Al Gore, Dersh was never at Epstein's place when she says he was, he proved that she was 17 when she met Prince Andrew when she had claimed to be 15.
     
  9. Bluesguy

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    It was a clear case of a judge doing everything he could to help the defense, such as not allowing the text message from Sussmann to be entered into evidence and jury nulification. Durham got out the evidence and facts of what happened which is the more important part than this slim very limited prosecution for the lie WHICH WAS INVOKED by Sussmann.
     
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    Yes it was HIS claim but when presented with the facts refuses to discuss them.
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    More asking you to address the facts vis-a-vis your assertions

    What is disingenuous here and please be specific. You keep making these claims and attacks on me and Durham yet you can't back them up. Can you post anything of merit here?

    We already had the facts exposed and that is that the Clinton campaign conspired with Fusion GPS to Chris Steele to produce the phony Russia collusion hoax and then used Joffe, who was looking for a WH job in a Clinton administration, to use his firms national security cyber research to create the phony Alpha Bank hoax. They then took the phony stories to their cohorts at the FBI and lied to some about the source it is believed others were aware and convinced them the press produced it and urged them to open an investigation. They did and then the Clinton campaign went and told the press the FBI had opened and investigation and they better star reporting about it.

    Those are the issues before us.

    What is false in the above and be specific
     
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    I'm not the one here defending molesters and wish for rainbows. As for surrender, since you are the one desperate and calling for it (the weak straw man fail), I'd say you're post projecting uncontrollable weakness.
     
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    This rinse and repeat post is a perfect example of low level, cheaply acquired propaganda and is also a perfect example disinformation disingenuous dribble so very well promoted by your posts. Dersh is a compromised molester, zero cred much like what I quoted.
     
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    So, you attack the messenger and then whine. You must have a lot of faith in Adam Schiff.
     
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    I haven't said anything about a Dersh, please try to focus about what you said and I asked about


    What is disingenuous here and please be specific. You keep making these claims and attacks on me and Durham yet you can't back them up. Can you post anything of merit here?

    We already had the facts exposed and that is that the Clinton campaign conspired with Fusion GPS to Chris Steele to produce the phony Russia collusion hoax and then used Joffe, who was looking for a WH job in a Clinton administration, to use his firms national security cyber research to create the phony Alpha Bank hoax. They then took the phony stories to their cohorts at the FBI and lied to some about the source it is believed others were aware and convinced them the press produced it and urged them to open an investigation. They did and then the Clinton campaign went and told the press the FBI had opened and investigation and they better star reporting about it.

    Those are the issues before us.

    What is false or disingenuous in the above and be specific
     
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    Dershowitz: Jan. 6 Panel 'Doctored the Tape,' Edited Out Trump's Words.

    This is a surprise. Don't all theatrical presentations involve some editing?
     
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    Who would do such a thing?
     
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    Yeah, the same daily rinse and repeat with crappy strawmen. Makes you wonder if it's just to bump the thread with Molester Compromised Underwear Dersh. Your posts are the epitome of disingenuous disinformation, so you do have that at least.
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    I have said nothing about who "Dersch", you made a statement of fact about the Durham investigation, as we do in this forum I asked you about it and posted a rebuttal to it. Instead you have said I am disengenuous and not posting strawman's yet refused to show where I have been.

    Back it up and your claims about Durham and the investigation and what he has shown so far.

    What is the strawman here and please be specific. You keep making these claims and attacks on me and Durham yet you can't back them up. Can you post anything of merit here?

    We already had the facts exposed and that is that the Clinton campaign conspired with Fusion GPS to Chris Steele to produce the phony Russia collusion hoax and then used Joffe, who was looking for a WH job in a Clinton administration, to use his firms national security cyber research to create the phony Alpha Bank hoax. They then took the phony stories to their cohorts at the FBI and lied to some about the source it is believed others were aware and convinced them the press produced it and urged them to open an investigation. They did and then the Clinton campaign went and told the press the FBI had opened and investigation and they better star reporting about it.

    Those are the issues before us.

    What is false or disingenuous or a strawman in the above and be specific

    I'll give you one more chance and if you can't then I'll assume you'll just continue to runaway and your claims about Durham and myself have been refuted and stand as I posted and you can't back up your assertions.
     
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    Every day, the disinformation disingenuous hit and run posts really expose the lack of credibility. It's sad unless it pays bills. Now, this is my last thread bump given that I hate feeding those peddling nonsense all day, everyday.
     
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    Flogging the Durham witch hunt? The first and easiest case Durham, another partisan schiller, lost and lost embarrassingly. You nonsense has been left with hope and rainbows. Koolaid?
     
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    I admire your tenacity but you are waging a can't-win battle, e.g. post #421.
     
  23. Hey Now

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    Nahh, that not what doubling down on B/S is and yes, arguing from a disingenuous disinformation position is an inherent loss. Just ask Durham....
     
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    Back it up and your claims about Durham and the investigation and what he has shown so far.

    What is the witchhunt here and please be specific. You keep making these claims and attacks on me and Durham yet you can't back them up. Can you post anything of merit here?

    We already had the facts exposed and that is that the Clinton campaign conspired with Fusion GPS to Chris Steele to produce the phony Russia collusion hoax and then used Joffe, who was looking for a WH job in a Clinton administration, to use his firms national security cyber research to create the phony Alpha Bank hoax. They then took the phony stories to their cohorts at the FBI and lied to some about the source it is believed others were aware and convinced them the press produced it and urged them to open an investigation. They did and then the Clinton campaign went and told the press the FBI had opened and investigation and they better star reporting about it.

    Those are the issues before us.

    What is false or disingenuous or a strawman or a witchhunt in the above and be specific
     
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    Durham face planted because his investigation is a house of cards. I kept underwear on Dersh is being blackmailed because of his Lolita proclivities. Now, it's time again for your cut and pastes rinse and repeat disingenuous disinformation posts again.
     

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