Do Conservatives care more about the U.S. and its freedom then Liberals do?

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  1. Libhater

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    You got to can those liberal talking points. No one is fighting wars for Exxon. If we were we would have taken all the oil we wanted after deposing Saddam and Qaddaffi--but we didn't now did we?
     
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    For once, will one of you stupid liberals define CORPORATION. WHO IS CORPORATION?

    It is the government who defines the playing field, NOT THE CORPORATIONS.

    Corporations are an entity to provide only one thing, PROFITS. These profits define efficiency and prosperity to workers, customers and investors.

    If the government forces them to play on the global level, they have to compete on the global level.

    STOP WITH THE EVIL CORPORATION NONSENSE AND ADDRESS THE REAL PROBLEM, WHICH IS, GOVERNMENT POLICIES.

    Sure, the corporate leaders play a role in this corruption, but only if the government allows it. Delute the governments power and you delute their power. WAKE UP.
     
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    That's what I was trying to tell him. It's bigger than that. If American military was simply fighting for corporate greed, oil namely, we would have taken Canada, where the majority of our oil comes from.
     
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    Excellent post, maat. People need to wake up. It is the state that is the problem. They are the ones obligated to do the right thing.
     
  6. shhs97

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    I used Exxon as one corporation. We fight wars for many corporations.
     
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    Corporations make the government policies.

    Simple. Wake up.
     
  9. maat

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    Not when a limited government is demanded by the people. Liberals have turned government power into a feeding frenzy of corruption.
     
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    Neocons political ideology is elitism. The religious legislature of "social conservatism" is simply a ruse. Intellectualism, statism and globalism are the principles of neocons. The only difference between neocons and the international left is the belief that the super wealthy shouldn't pay any taxes at all.
     
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    Saying that they recruit to the poor people really is not all that accurate. the top 20% of Americans, have a small representation, as well as does the lowest 10%. but the people in the Median income range actually are over represented in the Military making up a majority of its recruits.

    and before we have anybody start stating that they recruit to minorities. more then anybody else that is also false.

    The Military recruits. defined by race are as followed. (These are from the last statistics given)

    Whites: 79.18%
    Blacks 16.59
    Asian/Pacific Islander is 3.26
    American Indian is 0.96
    Other is .01

    By Ethnic Hispanic. it is 10.86
     
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    Where are we fighting wars for Exxon? In case you haven't noticed Exxon HATES a war zone and pulled out of Libya over a year ago.
     
  13. I Like Taxes

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    I am not a WWII history buff, so correct me if I am wrong, but the Soviets were not on a mission of conquest back then. They were defending themselves from the Germans.
     
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    Easy.. see The Apostolic Reformation.. or Christian Zionists or Evangelicals.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/united-states/206332-time-revisit-barry-goldwater-snap-out.html

    Goldwater was a devout Episcopalian who went on record against the idiocy of the christian right and expressed his desire to kick Falwell's ass.

    He wouldn't tolerate crackpot theology taking over government.
     
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    The recovery programs the liberals typically come up with are mostly very short sighted.

    For example, the latest stimulus plan that Barack Obama loves so much will only create temporary jobs. When the stimulus money is spent, these jobs are gone.

    What we need are sound policies that produce permanent jobs, not short term, temporary jobs.

    Obama is being very short sighted. He only want to create enough jobs to get him through the next election!

    Also, Obama wants us to believe he is a great administrator by unveiling this latest stimulus plan.

    What he did not tell us is that he intends to spend $447 B to create 1.9 million new jobs.

    If this is true, the jobs Obama will now create will cost the U.S. tax payers $235,000 for each new job that is added to the workforce.

    Somehow, Obama great plan for reviving our economy does not seem so great after all.
     
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    Liberals like Reagan and Bush...who expanded the government and government spending to record levels? Well, I know, until Obama. Trust me. I'm not defending Obama...just stating that he is not a liberal.
     
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    Yes, he is a liberal. Reagan rebuilt the military, bush fought two wars.

    Did they both commit socialist policies, yes. Just because I am conservative does not mean I agree with republican policies. I am a Constitutionalist because it provides the principles for a free and prosperous society.
     
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    See my post on neocons. And your democrats eat cheese and wine and laugh with them. Or if you disagree, please provide an example of a law passed by democrats that hurt super wealthy republicans, or visa versa? I'm sure they argue from time to time over the dinner table, but they are both globalists as sure as you are born, and have zero intentions of ever returning America to greatness.
     
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    How about laws that hurt the citizens in general. how about laws that make U.S. citizens wait in line for their own tax money. so they can reward illegals

    such as AB 130 and now AB131.

    Where is Obama, and the rest of the left yelling and screaming about the left overstepping their power on immigration issues?

    If Arizona had no right to make "Immigration" laws. or laws that only affected illegal immigration.

    then California should not be allowed to make laws that reward illegal immigration
     
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    OH....so spending money on war is good.
    A constitutionalist? Oh, like the founding fathers? Yeah, a free and just society...well, other than the slaves...and the debt servants, and the indentured servants...and the share croppers...
    OH, but the founding fathers, they made out like...Kings?
     
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    You have to take a step back and look at the situation we're in with both eyes wide open. Neither do anything to do away with legislation that was passed by the other. And because in the last 11 years both sides have had complete control at one point or another, they can't argue against what I am saying. Don't get caught up in the 2 side thing, brother. Both are just adding onto the others laws, the great fight is a pony show. Only when something would actually help America is there gridlock. Anything that hurts what America is, or supposed to stand for, or America's ability to recover, is passed through, despite the faux resistance of whatever side currently isn't in power.
     
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    I agree with you 100%
     
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    So far your liberal patriots have only caused ridiculous gas prices, a recession, and 10% unemployment.

    Good Job!
     
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    Obama is a leftist of the social justice variety. He's completely predictable.
     
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