Do you believe that what Trump said on the call to Ukraine was appropriate?

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Was what Trump said to Zelensky on the infamous call appropriate?

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  1. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When was that?
     
  2. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You’re kidding, right ???
     
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  3. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not in the slightest. Back up your claim.
     
  4. Bridget

    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Are you in marketing? Because it's a sometimes successful marketing strategy to tell people that if they don't agree, they will be on the losing team. The idea is that no one wants to be a loser. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. It was the strategy the Dems used in 2016 and it failed.

    I don't get this, because my integrity wants the Biden family investigated for corruption. Especially since Joe admitted to his own quid pro quo. We have this on tape, not a matter of opinion or second guessing "what he was REALLY thinking". He was very plain about it. My integrity says this needs to be looked into, regardless of whether (and especially because) he is a presidential candidate.
     
  5. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Too funny.
     
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    Bridget Well-Known Member

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    Joe admitted to his own quid pro quo. We have this on tape, not a matter of opinion or second guessing "what he was REALLY thinking". He was very plain about it.

    I am unsure what the date of the tape was, but can probably find out if you like.
     
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  7. Lesh

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    Joe "admitted" to helping remove a corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor.

    That was an action in OUR NATIONAL interest

    Trump tried to strong arm Zelensky into manufacturing political dirt on his political opponent.

    That NOT in the National interest. That's in his OWN interest.

    And illegal on several counts

    But you know that. You are being ...well the site won't let me characterize it.
     
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  8. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If this was a demand to fire a corrupt prosecutor to secure a billion dollar grant that has been explained is some detail. To wit, it was public, in the open, it was an international demand involving several international finance organizations, it was a deal made by Obama and other international players, Biden delivered the ultimatum to the Ukraine, "clean up corruption or no deal." Is that what you're referencing? His "own quid pro quo" was on behalf of the United States and didn't involve Biden's personal bank account. Yes, it was wide open and totally above board. No news.
     
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  9. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How was the prosecutor corrupt ???
     
  10. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    No. I'm not in marketing. And I never thought of that. In fact, I'm not the one saying that they're in the losing team. The polls are. Not to mention the facts.

    I want corruption investigated. Here's the problem: even if Biden had committed some act of corruption, this is the worst administration to investigate it. I mean, the most corrupt administration in American history claiming that somebody else is corrupt?

    I not only want corruption investigated. I want it punished. If this administration were to find any actual wrong-doing by... Biden, or anybody.... nobody would believe them at this point. So they would actually be helping him get away with it.
     
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  11. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    This dialogue is so funny. "Show me !".... "you want me to show you?"... "Yes"...."You're joking".... "No"... It's on tape.... "Show it!".... "you sure you want me to show you the tape?"....

    God!!!!!
     
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    not even close to appropriate, Trump got away with it in 2016, he could not be happy with getting away with it once, instead he took that as it was ok to do again, this time using the power of the Presidency and the tax payers money... mistake
     
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  13. Zorro

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    Marc Thiessen reported,

    "Joe Biden has said that by holding up vital military aid to Ukraine, President Trump 'used the power and resources of the United States to pressure a sovereign nation, a partner that is still under direct assault from Russia … to subvert the rule of law.'​

    "That’s rich. The aid in question is lethal military assistance that the Obama-Biden administration refused to give Ukraine."​

    Obama was Putin's Puppet.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The narrative included nothing that the president of the United States could not legally ask.

    And there is no evidence to suggest that there was a quid pro quo.

    And the president of Ukraine has now stated twice that nothing bothered him about the call.

    This amounts to more opinion than fact, so it amounts to yet another futile attempt to disparage Trump.

    Can't wait to see the new boots.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Obama flew to Italy to try to tie up lose ends regarding the illegal Koch-Glitsch backdoor sale to Putin.

    Putin has these Democrat players on their knees if he wants them there.
     
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  16. AFM

    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The corruption lies with Biden.

    What are some examples of the Trump corruption ???
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What did he get away with ???
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You really haven’t seen Sleepy Joe admit his corrupt act ???
     
  19. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    attempted collusion and attempted obstruction

    Trump is even a failure a being a criminal, he always gets caught, but then again look at the idiots he picks to hep him
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Specifically what collusion are you talking about ??? Specifically what obstruction are you talking about ???

    When will Trump be changed with anything ???

    BTW where are all the prosecutions from the Kavanaugh hearings ???
     
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    And the "Do me a favour, though?"
     
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  22. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nope, but I have seen Dirty Donald admit his corrupt act
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trump tower meeting for starters, sure Trump failed at attempted collusion, but he still attempted it, still a crime - obstructed... a crime as well

    individual one will prob never be punished for any crimes he may of committed though
     
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    Really. When was that and what did he admit ???
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's hilarious. What collusion did Trump attempt ??
     

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