Does income entitle one to a child?

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that the reverse is the reality. The poorest have the most kids, the richest have the least.

    I suspect the poor do this because it's about the only thing they feel they have any power over. "I may have no financial security, but look how many babies I made!"
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    Agree.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    But that's precisely what they do think.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    No, it's a failing to pretend that such women can't help themselves.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    The universal method of ensuring financial security is to get educated and work hard. That's absolutely 'fair', because it's available to all in our rich western nations.

    No matter how much 'help' you throw at some people, they'll never do the two things mentioned above. In which case there cannot be 'fairness'.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    whoops
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm sorry you missed the thread title. It was written in English!
     
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    And yet they do. You have to remember that we're talking about women who find the pregnancy and birth part easy (plenty do, myself included), and have no intention of being a responsible parent for 18 years.
     
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    No, he's right. Women who have a lot of kids invariably do less 'parenting' than those with two or three. The explanation for this is obvious, but you seem to keep missing it.
     
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    crank Well-Known Member

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    So it's always a good idea then (assuming rights are important to you, and what you say has any truth to it), to ensure you have wealth.
     
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    Don't be ridiculous, of course they do. Women have been doing this since Eve was a girl. As a woman, I concur with what he's is saying 100%. I KNOW women gold dig .. and use whatever means they have at their disposal. Not all women, but it's a universal truth that the less well endowed (in intellect or looks) females use whatever they can to secure a male.
     
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    They're both equally terrible parents. She for choosing a crappy man and then breeding with him, and he for bailing.
     
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    They aren't the ones choosing to carry a child. They have no say in the matter, for the most part.
     
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    that explains so much
     
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    Of course to youchildren become a source of income....after all women just love living at the poverty level. Wow, what a great income
    I am sure you believe you raised your sons to be responsible, everyone else believes they did too...
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    You're talking about a VERY tiny percentage of women.... with NO point whatsoever...except to denigrate poor women...and that's not a point...that's a failing


    Some women , JUST LIKE MEN , aren't perfect or fit in with someone's ideals.

    HOW do YOU intend to improve the human race so everyone is as perfect as the posters here who denigrate any woman who doesn't fit their ideals ?
     
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    Or maybe they can have something that is theirs to love and be loved byWhy do you have to see the darkness in people
     
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    And I bet you don’t think you have a bigoted bone in your body.
     
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    I'll dismiss that as you seem to feel ALL women are robots who do everything exactly the same......a very sexist, and subsequently, ignorant view.
     
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    Sounds like you’re projecting your own feelings
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    WHY don't you warn your three sons to NOT be these types of men?

    There are many men who get women pregnant just to brag........they think having kids is supposed to impress people...

    Funny how you haven't mentioned them



    Of course they don't, I WAS addressing someone who thought only women need "guidance".
     
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    I don’t believe for a second that you are a woman if you are saying that birth is easy and pregnancy is easy. Yes, I can hear these women now, “pregnancy is so much fun and labor is a blast so I’m going to get pregnant but then not be responsible for the result of a kid”
     
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    Not to me; when I open my wallet, I have pictures of my kids where my money used to be!

    To me, my kids are a source of joy. I am happy to say that 3 of the 5 are supporting themselves.

    I am not saying that Section 8 housing and Welfare is a great income, but many settle for that way of life and raise the next generation to do the same. Im sure the mother of the son who has 8 kids and is sitting in prison considers her son responsible. [/sarcasm]

    Where did he say that?

    And who thought that only women needed guidance? Maybe you're not bad at grammar; you are great at reading of what is not there!
     
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    To the poor people working minimum-wage jobs the children are also their source of joy and in many cases their only source of joy. I taught in a school with section 8 projects where most had public assistance ...And this may shock you but they have the same dreams and hopes for their children. I met students I taught there more than 30 years ago....(16 found me on facebook) and they are doing very well.when people look down on you, as though getting public assistance makes you inferior, it’s hard getting out of the rut...and of course racism...oh wait, there isn’t any anymore
     
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    Right here:
    """crank said:
    No, he's right. Women who have a lot of kids invariably do less 'parenting' than those with two or three. The explanation for this is obvious, but you seem to keep missing it."""


    .........a very sexist, and subsequently, ignorant view.
     

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