Does income entitle one to a child?

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  1. crank

    crank Well-Known Member

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    By living and modelling responsible adulthood (which includes parenting). The idea being that my kids will do likewise. So far, it's working.

    And you say 'perfect' as though somehow that's a bad thing. Do you think adults should just please themselves? Don't worry about the kiddies? I can't agree. When it comes to children, 'perfection' (in our parenting) is what we should all be striving for.
     
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    Sexist? bizarro response.

    Do you not understand how and why, that with each additional child, a woman can retreat a little more from actual parenting?
     
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    "Dreams and hopes" for our kids are realised by sheer hard work and self-sacrifice, not dreaming and hoping.

    No one looks down on the impoverished when it's a temporary fix for situations which are not self-inflicted. Young people lacking family support, as they work their way through school, etc.

    And no, there isn't any institutional racism in 2017. If there was, Asian Americans wouldn't be out-earning and out-educating white Americans.
     
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    For many, it beats education and work .. by a mile. Housing and money, to sit on one's arse? Very attractive to a certain type of human.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    HOW do YOU intend to improve the human race so everyone is as perfect as the posters here who denigrate any woman who doesn't fit their ideals ?



    :) Hilarious! Are you on a world wide TV show that every human sees so they know how perfect people live? :roflol:

    No, I didn't say "perfect" was a bad thing, that's your warped interpretation.

    I used "perfect" as sarcasm since very IMPERFECT people seem to think they are perfect and if other's aren't exactly like them they have something wrong with them....people who think they're perfect have mental issues since no human is perfect and "perfect" is in the eye of the beholder........
     
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    You do NOT understand that women are NOT robots, not animals ,they do NOT all act exactly the same way nor should they.....your insisting they do is SEXIST, it is the epitome of what sexism is....

    NOT only that but to insist a woman "RETREATS" from parenting with each additional child is asinine and illogical....

    Let me ask you: How many children does a woman need to have before she can actually stop her parenting, having retreated with every birth, and move out of the house and retire from parenting??? :roll::roflol:
     
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    YUP! We just elected a President who fits that description.

    SEE, it isn't just poor women that do that....even though it's so easy and lazy to pick on the poor women (who do what you want and have babies) rather than the wealthy tax suckers who actually HARM this country.
     
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    This problem will likely soon be greatly reduced by digital sex -- robot sex slaves programmed just how people want it.

    With this new technology there's no chance of haploid chromosomes becoming diploid and a new child born and a world to carry on.
     
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    "soon" ? Ahh, the idealism of the young ....
     
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    A Barcelona whorehouse has already replaced women whores with these. If the Mustang Ranch hadn't already gone out of business the end would be near for them.
     
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    How much does a life-like robot cost?

    How many people are in the world?

    Why would a good prostitute give up her job?

    ...and we are very off topic
     
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    A child is not an entitlement, it is a responsibility.
     
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    Because she was laid off.
     
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    What makes you think that poor people don’t work hard and self-sacrifice? We all have hopes and dreams for our children but most of us don’t put a price tag on it.. my goodness, your prejudice is mind blowing . I have to laugh that you don’t think there is institutional racism today. We don’t have institutionalized racism against Asian Americans and that is part of the reason why they are doing so well. It is the bigotry against blacks and the prejudice against them that holds them back. You illustrate it beautifully.
     
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    Yes it is, and people who are poor and people who are rich are responsible for their children. Let me guess you are against reproductive freedom for women
     
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    I'm only against those, men and women, who act irresponsibly by creating children they knowingly are incapable of providing care for.
     
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    Then it certainly is a good thing that abortion is available.
     
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    I don't understand why you jump to conclusions instead of just asking. I grew up poor (Financially) and do not look down anyone based on their income. I do look down on those who have babies to secure a man and/or a source of income and then neglect and abuse these children. This may come as a shock to you, but it happens. One of my daughters friends was being abused by one of these parents and luckily, she spoke up and was removed immediately. We adopted her and I am proud to call her my daughter. She graduated with a degree in psychology and is now helping others. Hopes and dreams do come true.

    Your problem is that you paint groups of people with a broad stroke. Some parents put in the effort to raise happy, self confident children, while others let the school, the TV, and the police raise their children while they collect money. Between these two extremes are all levels of parenting.

    Money does not make one a good parent any more than the lack of money makes one a bad parent. When our time on Earth expires, it will not matter how much money we had. True wealth is measured in the moments we spend with those we love. (IMO)
     
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    And those who obtain an abortion should be held responsible for the cost as well.
     
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    Maybe a dog, cat, or hamster would be a more reasonable choice until they can afford the costs of raising a child. Shouldn't the childs happiness and joy be taken into consideration as well?
     
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    Yes, they are , just like any other legal medical procedure.
     
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    As long as people take responsibility for their actions, having or aborting a child, why should others have anything to complain about?
     
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    Uh, why don't you ask THEM ?
     
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    Ask who? Ask them what?
     
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    Ndividual said:
    As long as people take responsibility for their actions, having or aborting a child, why should others have anything to complain about?""""


    FoxHastings: Uh, why don't you ask THEM ?


    The ones who are complaining about abortion :roll::roll::roll:
     

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