Egypt strikes 'terrorist camps' in Libya in response to attack on Coptic Christians

You're typical of an american with almost no clue of the mideast. The arab muslims across the mideast show significant support for terrorism in the name of defending islam:

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

"In a few countries, a quarter or more of Muslims say these acts of violence are at least sometimes justified, including 40% in the Palestinian territories, 39% in Afghanistan, 29% in Egypt and 26% in Bangladesh."

 

LOL, the forum's foremost iran terror apologist is still claiming Hersh is even remotely credible...how many times did he state Israel was going to attack iran? Five?

And sonny, the sunnis in the mideast DESPISE iran because of what IRAN does, not because of what the US claims. Funny how the dishonest claim the US is powerless in the mideast to control hearts and minds there - but but but it can magically convince 400 MM arab muslims to hate iran...just pathetic.

Mass slaughtering 1 MM sunnis in syria, mass murdering them in lebanon and iraq have pretty much locked up endless blood rage and hatred of the sunnis for the scumhole of iran for the next, oh, 250 years.

 

It required no magic. Wahhabi money poured into Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon and the Palestinian territory and its focus was to fund preachers, pundits, politicians, and media organs who constantly peddled anti Iran/anti Hezbollah propaganda in these countries. You (jimmy rivers) should know, since you often cite reports from these kind of media and pundits to back up your nonsense!

The drop in support for Iran, incidentally, preceded the Syrian civil war even as none of Iran's policies had really changed! Of course, the Syrian civil war was itself a staged and planned slaughter and mayhem from these folks as part of a plan whose contours are revealed by numerous documents including from the US government itself.

 

"Propaganda"? So now assad mass bombing sunnis and slaughtering them is "propaganda"? That hezbollah did not turn its guns on fellow lebanese is "propaganda"? I know now for a fact you are nowhere near iran nor the mideast, if you said this crap anywhere outside iran you'd have your head broken, and the average iranian who is not a regime lackey would laugh in your face. There is not a single utterance from you that is credible or even remotely believable.

That you continue to respond to my posts almost instantly after I post them, no matter time of the 24 hour cycle I make them is further proof you are a paid agent/hack.

 

I am confident no one is paying me to post here, although I certainly wouldn't mind if they did and would gladly take their money. But I am not sure about you ("jimmy rivers") and whether you are paid or whether you simply belong to a group or organization that has anti-Iran agendas. In my case, incidentally, I am not even part of any political group or organization, as none live up to my standards of being honest, decent, and truthful. Politics and politicians to me are all corrupt. But, of course, you sometimes have a battle between bad and worse, such as in Syria, or when it comes to the situation in Lebanon, and with respect to Israel, and I try to choose the lesser of the evils and certainly speak out against the greater evil I see.

 

Like I said, It only seems that way to YOU because you cannot comprehend what they say.

 

No one should, your posts couldn't convince a person water was wet, so whoever is paying you is certainly not getting their money's worth.

Sure sonny, everyone who sees iran as the terrorist cancer state it is has an "agenda". So when is iran going to remove its terrorist proxy armies from around the mideast?

You are making me laugh here, you have no standards.

So when are you going to condemn iran's government for its mass murder?

iran created isis, so to claim that iran is doing "good" there is hilarious BS. And it does not give iran a pass for mass slaughtering and ethnically cleansing the millions of sunnis out of syria.

Which is what, that iran has inserted a tumor, a terrorist army proxy to undermine the country's legitimate government?

Anyone who claims Israel is a bigger problem in the mideast than iran has mental issues.

 

Then prove what they say. Who did they poll? Prove it wasn't mostly ISIS members. We'll wait.

 

What does your link have to do with muslim support of ISIS. To the tune of 80% as was claimed? Nothing I saw.
Are you a typical RWer, sneaky?

 

Actually, you've been vehemently denying my claim of millions of Arabs who support ISIS. EVEN if only 1/10th of 1% of Arabs support ISIS, my claim is accurate.

 

Even if? Sounds like you don't know how many support them. Which means you've got nothing but your opinion.

 

Nope, it showed islam is the fastest growing religion. <Mod Edit- Rule 2/3>

 

The polls showed widespread support of muslims for terrorism. Try reading them and you might actually not sound so patently clueless.

 

Would you guys make up your mind then?

I am so confused since you guys seem to use this argument whenever it is useful.

"Nothing that happens in the first year is because of Trump..." This has been a quote from several people on this forum in the last few months, now I see it is only when it benefits your ideology.

Also, you attacking the poll seems pretty silly. No the poll did not talk to all 1.3 billion muslims or whatever, it did what every other poll does. Takes averages and then extrapolates on the date based on past and current trends.

I bet they are closer to the truth than the 1000 polls performed showing Hillary "winning in a landslide:"

 

Hmm. Did they?

 

The poll didn't say who they polled. For all practical purposes, the poll is a fraud.

 

Legitimate scientific polls will show overwhelming opposition to Israel in the Muslim world and a significant minority who believe that what is good for the goose is good for the gander and who sympathize with even attacks which target Israeli civilians. Otherwise, though, there is less support for any form of terrorism (i.e., intentional killing of civilians to achieve some ideological, political, or geopolitical objective) among Muslims of all stripes than you find among people in the west. Of course, in certain Muslim countries like Iran, anti-ISIS, anti-Al Queda, and anti-Wahhabi sentiments run at a higher fever pitch than you find in the west. But the terrorism, defined as intentionally killing civilians to further politicized objectives, isn't just about a particular group or agenda. Or any particular state or religion. In fact, the largest single act of terrorism was the dropping of atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. And there are many in the west, including on this page, who don't mind dropping a few such bombs in various places in the Islamic world either. In fact, one of the single largest donors in American politics, who is particularly "generous" in supporting Republicans but also funds a variety of neocon front organizations, think tanks, and the like, namely Sheldon Adelson, has publicly supported "nuking Iran". But, of course, even Americans who might think that would be going too far wouldn't necessarily call that "terrorism". For them, terrorism is when someone attacks civilians with whom they sympathize and when someone attacks pro western interests and doesn't include the same thing if done by western powers (or their lackeys) against people who they tag as the "enemy".

 

http://www.pewglobal.org/2006/05/23/where-terrorism-finds-support-in-the-muslim-world/



See that first line? EIGHTY-ONE percent of moroccans support suicide bombings of civilians. In Jordan, SIXTY-EIGHT percent, SIXTY-TWO percent in Lebanon, and half in Turkey and Indonesia, that is HUNDREDS of millions of people.

Let me know when you are able to come up with a real argument.

 

Only an idiot or a propagandist like the ones which abound in the kind of media used for reference here, would take that quote from 20+ years ago from someone who has passed away, which was talking about how having nuclear weapons by Muslim states would deter a nuclear attack by Israeli because a nuclear attack from Israel would damage parts of the Muslim world but destroy Israel, and equate it with the most influential donor in the Republican party and neocon circles only a few years ago calling on the US to threaten Iran with being nuked unless Iran give into American demands.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ryan-costello/adelson--fdd-want-to-nuke_b_4159584.html
Adelson and FDD Want to Nuke Iran, Diplomacy

But, in any case, my point in what I had in my initial post remains regardless. Lets say tomorrow Iran develops nukes and then threatens to use them in the "middle of Tel Aviv" if Israel doesn't do as Iran demands. That would be terrorism in my book. But it doesn't change the fact that there are many influential people in the US who advocate terrorism against various states and even if someone thinks they are going too far, few Americans consider it terrorism. Simply because to them "terrorism" is about who is being threatened or terrorized and not merely whether they happen to be civilians that are being targeted.

Btw, have any of the candidates who Adelson contributes to stopped taking his money? Obviously not. In fact, the organizations he sponsors, such as FDD (Foundation for Defense of Democracies) among a host of others, and a host of media he and like minded people sponsor, are essentially the drivers behind many of the anti-Iran policies and agendas that take shape among the neocons.

 

<Mod Edit- Rule 3> From your original link. Jordan 97% unfavorable.

How do Muslims feel about groups like ISIS?
Recent surveys show that most people in several countries with significant Muslim populations have an unfavorable view of ISIS, including virtually all respondents in Lebanon and 94% in Jordan. Relatively small shares say they see ISIS favorably. In some countries, considerable portions of the population do not offer an opinion about ISIS, including a majority (62%) of Pakistanis.

Favorable views of ISIS are somewhat higher in Nigeria (14%) than most other nations. Among Nigerian Muslims, 20% say they see ISIS favorably (compared with 7% of Nigerian Christians). The Nigerian militant group Boko Haram, which has been conducting a terrorist campaign in the country for years, has sworn allegiance to ISIS.

More generally, Muslims mostly say that suicide bombings and other forms of violence against civilians in the name of Islam are rarely or never justified, including 92% in Indonesia and 91% in Iraq. In the United States, a 2011 survey found that 86% of Muslims say such tactics are rarely or never justified. An additional 7% say suicide bombings are sometimes justified and 1% say they are often justified.

In a few countries, a quarter or more of Muslims say these acts of violence are at least sometimes justified, including 40% in the Palestinian territories, 39% in Afghanistan, 29% in Egypt and 26% in Bangladesh.

In many cases, people in countries with large Muslim populations are as concerned as Western nations about the threat of Islamic extremism, and have become increasingly concerned in recent years. About two-thirds of people in Nigeria (68%) and Lebanon (67%) said in 2016 that they are very concerned about Islamic extremism in their country, both up significantly since 2013.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/

<Mod Edit Rule 3> Your original link doesn't back up what you say.
Now you post a link the contradicts your original link. <Mod Edit Rule 3>

 

First you claimed there was not widespread support for terrorism in the muslim world, which you were proven wrong.

Now you're claiming that the muslim world's attitude toward terrorism has changed, which is not what you originally claimed. You have multiple posters here calling you out for not providing links or facts for your claims, and this is a good example.

The article shows that recently, and because the attacks have now focused on muslims instead of just westerners in their countries, that arab muslims' opinions of terrorism has reduced SLIGHTLY. Regardless, there is still MASSIVE support and acceptance in the arab muslim world for terrorism, which even the more recent polls have shown.

It appears you are more prone to juvenile, childish insults than honest debate, and have nothing to offer of substance, not surprising.

 

Of course I do. What you've been denying for days. "MILLIONS of Arabs" support ISIS and you haven't presented a shred of evidence to contradict that fact. Just lots of whining in response.

 

How many Muslims did they interview in total?

 

Do they need to interview all 400 MM to prove millions of them support terrorism?

 

Polls like that tend to be self serving. If they interviewed 50 people in any country I would be surprised.