Employers Should Not Be Able To Intimidate With Political Views

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  1. ibobbrob

    ibobbrob Well-Known Member

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    The severance package is negotiated when they are hired as part of their payment plan and they certainly do face consequences for unethical behavior in the form of Federal fines and jail time. When you fck up you face no consequences for failure or unethical behavior and don't have to be particularly competent and you don't even have to move on.
     
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    Of course, you have to go along with managements way of doing things. If you are going to be a maverick with different views then you might not get that promotion. If your political views are different and you stink up the workplace with them then you might not get the promotion. And I don't mean the kind of things that Fox and other businesses did. Look what happened there as a result. The hotshots got fired. If you can do the job that the employer believes will influence the bottom line then of course you have a much better chance of getting that promotion. That is business, my friend. It is not a sorority house.
     
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    While this is good advice, it does not speak to the issue how how much power an employer should be able to weld over an employees personal affairs.
     
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    A company should be concerned about an employee's personal behavior when it hurts the company or the company's reputation. Simple as that.
     
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    You are welcome to your opinion but, is it informed ? What constitutes something that hurts a companies reputation is highly subjective and anything but simple.
     
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    When has the government ever put one of those slimy business ****s behind bars since Madoff? Nobody was prosecuted for causing the 2009 recession and profiting off of it. Nobody was prosecuted after the LIBOR scandal got revealed. It's pretty clear who the government works for and who the real rulers are.
     
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    It's very simple. The company decides.
     
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    You are talking about government which is a different conversation, yes? Thirty-five bankers are in jail for the Libor scandal and prosecutions are still in progress. Only two bankers are in jail for the mortgage crisis that contributed to the great recession and many
    were fired or resigned due to poor judgment.
     
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    Holy Carp this is a nonsensical and fallacious reply. Why should the company you work for be able to dictate every aspect of your personal life ?
     
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    The irony wasn't lost. The bloody Guardian, of all worthless rags. Rabidly biased.
     
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    If there was any justice, every last one of the bastards would be hanged by his own entrails
     
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    I hope you're joking.
     
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    Nuh uh.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20474120
    The unnamed couple told the Daily Telegraph social workers had accused them of belonging to a "racist party". UKIP said it was an appalling decision.

    Rotherham Borough Council's Strategic Director of Children and Young People's Services, Joyce Thacker, told the BBC that her decision was influenced by UKIP's immigration policy, which she said calls for the end of the "active promotion of multiculturalism".


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/latestnews/2016/diversity
    The BBC has today launched its ambitious new strategy that will hardwire diversity and inclusion into everything the Corporation does, on- and off-air.
     
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    Agreed. People lost everything in the Clinton and Bush recessions and some committed suicide. Today a number of middle-aged men have committed suicide and it wouldn't surprise me if it was related to the Clinton recession since they were never able to recover from that recession.
     
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    why shouldn't they have that power? It's their company.


    No.

    It's their business why shouldn't they?
    Makes sense.

    so don't work for Fox News.


    no it's not that's what you hire people for.
     
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    what?
     
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    I don't even know what that is

    I get paid for my work so whatever that is that's what it is.
     
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    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    Do you hire people, are you hired, or both, or neither? That's what defines economic class, not wealth
     
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    Who gives a s*** about class?
     
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    I see nothing wrong with an employer telling his employees that if so and so wins, he or she has promised to get a law passed in regards to business which would force the business into laying off people and make it harder to keep the doors open. Of course, this must be the truth and not just partisanship. And of course I have little doubt that plenty of employers would abuse it by intentional lies.

    Yet when I vote, I have always voted in private without an audience to see how I cast my votes. And there is no way for an employer to find out how you voted. At least not so far, but that could of course change.

    Before I retired and sold my small manufacturing business, if there has been a person running which had promised to get a new law or regulation passed which would hurt my business, and hence my employees, I would have sure told them about it. Not that I would try to force anyone to vote for another person, but informing them would be the intelligent thing to do. As I recall that most of my employees over the years either did not vote or they had no idea about issues and where their selected candidate stood on them, unless it was one of these deep emotion driven issues that reside in the social justice column. Most were either a dem or a repub and actually knew little about what their party actually stood for or promoted. They just voted for the dem or repub, being tribe members. My black employees must have voted democratic and the white ones for the GOP. I am just guessing for I never knew for sure how people voted. Not any of my business as a business owner. I would inform them of the fact if the business was affected, and it would be up to them if this mattered. Being informed of facts which could affect their lives is essential, and I doubt many average americans know much about facts, given the death of journalism.
     
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    Hardly, you've obviously never worked in pharma.
     
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    Your power structure does; deeply sensitive/showflakey to it and the public awareness of what they've done to maintain an authoritarian power structure.
     
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    Class is the basis of historical change
     
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    I don't care about this.
     
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    The pharma industry indictrinates/threatenes its employees in this manner constantly.
    Oh I know.
     
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