Employers Should Not Be Able To Intimidate With Political Views

Here is Damore's suit as described by CNBC. There is a link to the full complaint at the bottom.

And, as it turns out, it is illegal to fire someone for their political views in the state of California.

 

So you are saying that employees should just take it lying down without even the slightest bit of resistance?

 

Is that so in California? THAT IS VERY VERY GOOD.

Where is the link?

 

Here's the link. Good for Damore, bad for Google.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/08/jam...awsuit-against-google-for-discrimination.html

 

What are you going to do add another layer of possible lawsuits and make employers more paranoid, right now I know some employers who won't hire anyone with a social activist record of any kind in college you belonged to a Women's Rights Group your resume is tossed out then they will add political affiliations.

 

Oh yeah, that. Thanks anyway. I had forgotten about that.

 

Well it should be illegal for employers to discriminate in that way. Anyone who is aware of such behavior should be able to report it without fear of recrimination. If it takes additional specific legislation to stop it, then that is what should be done.

 

Votes might be private but political affiliation and what organizations you donated money to is not private.

 

Are PACs required to disclose everyone who donates money to them?

 

Fine then employers will simply ferret out those employees with any strong political, social, religious and other markers and toss them into the circular file and take the 'safe' choices and force the government and employees to prove discrimination disabled people get tossed out all the time I'm sure on some other reason not experienced enough or can't afford to accommodate them. So how are you going to prove squat and even if you did businesses are not social clubs employers hire you to make them money if your possibly going to be trouble why would they risk hiring you?

 

Only if you don't keep your mouth shut and don't advertise.

 

How would you know that they will do it? For you to say that, someone must have knowledge that is being done. If there were strong protections for people who know that is taking place and there were incentives for them to expose such behavior by employers, then employers would not do it because of fear of punishment by the law.

 

It's public information and accessable to anybody. When I put my name in Oklahomadata.com it brought up my address, birth date, voter Id number, when I was registered to vote, my affiliated party and how many times I voted.....

Haven't CEO s of major corporations lost their jobs or become targeted by liberal media because activists made a big deal about their perfectly legal political donations? That info is public knowledge.

 

That is simple for party put No Party and vote like you want, no one needs to put any party but why not make that kind of information illegal to disclose even to the political parties it seems to me simpler than employer based bans.

 

if they're intimidated enough they'll just go out of business or move overseas

we have unions now and in fact states where you aren't at will employed meaning you have to be part of the union or you don't work are broken.

I'm sorry there The Host. Employees should be symbiotic. If there's no threat of being fired then there is no motivation to perform well. You weren't paid by your employer out of the goodness of their heart you are paid by them because you offered them a service worth paying for.

 

I am a proponent of at will employment meaning I as an employee can quit anytime without notice and the employer can fire me at any time without notice. It seems to work fine for me. That being said I am against employees being fired over political views if they are not relevant to the job and in a vest majority of cases it wouldn't be relevant to the job.

As far as I see it there isn't an imbalance of power. If an employer hires employees that means they need them. An employer is not obligated to employ you. They aren't in the business of giving jobs to people they're in the business of making money. If you help them make more money they will give you some of it.

I do remember the CEO of Mozilla getting canned over his political views I thought that was wrong I would think it was wrong. He was the employee of the shareholder.

 

perhaps union members should be able to control which political group their dues go to.

 

If such laws scare them enough they will either restructure lay off all their employees and hire subcontractors or move overseas.

 

Political beliefs should not be a protected class because they can range from reasonable with disagreement to radical nutbar nonsense. And if someone is something like a Charlottesville type event carrying a flag wearing the uniform my company provided them I should absolutely be allowed to fire them.

 

My view is that the unions are parasites that require terror to get what they want, such as violent strikes that damage property and
physically prevent workers who want to work from entering the workplace. Union workers in America do not take pride in their work. The difficult unions which invariably produce inferior products since they are impervious to criticism and don't give a hoot anyway, represent employees who can't be fired for lousy work ethic, practice featherbedding big time and make demands that strain the company's ability to compete in the marketplace. One reason why companies moved abroad---to be competitive financially and operate without the constant threat of a strike to stymie production.

 

Pressure is one thing but it doesn't push the button in the voting booth.

 

They can't they can only dictate what you can say while you're at work or what you do while representing their company either wearing their uniform or telling people who you work for.

Think about it this way if I ran a mechanic shop and I heard three mechanics and I'm a black person. I have a huge clientele among family and friends largely black people and one of my employees posts pictures on Facebook wearing Nazi insignia or carrying a clan flag while wearing the uniform from my shop I should absolutely be able to fire that person no questions asked. Such a thing would drive away my business.

 

Perhaps, but it affects employment.

 

You are in favor of the workers controlling the means of production? That is a recipe for failure.

 

People can absolutely find out who you donated money to.