Every day hundreds of Dutch school children are forced to bow to Islam

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  1. notme

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    Sisi would be nowhere near the billions bucks of military support.
    Saddam was put in the saddle by the west. The Iraqi democracy was installed by the west. That dude in Oman was put in the saddle by the west. The "president" of Yemen would be nowhere without the west. Assad would be nowhere without them orthodox Christians, where western Christians are eager to replace him with their puppet. Kuwait wouldn't even be a country without the west.

    Don't go downplaying what the West has done, to than complain omg look at it.
     
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    LOL Saddam took over by himself by taking over the Baathist party. We supported him because he opposed Iran but we did not put him in there.

    If you are mad about indirect support of Isis then look no further than you leaders idiotic handling of the Middle East. Obama's "lead from behind" idiot policy meant giving arms to several factions who had direct ties to Isis and other Islamic fundamentalist groups. Libya is the perfect example of Obama's failure in that region. He failed to support the one dictator that had willingly handed over his nuclear program to Bush and instead supported Islamic radicals who are now doing more damage to that country than Qaddafi ever did.

    Assad wasn't appointed by us he took over himself and we supported him until we didn't in which case the Russians no support him. Absolutely none of the people you mentioned were installed by the US all of them took power themselves and then we decided to help them or not help them. In case you haven't noticed the US has an atrocious record when it comes to picking winners in the Middle East. We took out the Sha of Iran and replaced him only to have that botched within less than a year.
     
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    The US has mingled in massively way before Saddam Hussein had any war going on with Iran. Get real.

    I put up a bunch of countries where Christian nations massively shaped the middle east.

    Assad always was under MASSIVE support by the Orthodox Christians. Russia got a military base in there.
    He would be nowhere without them
    THE WHAT? lol
    The US with the UK removed a fully functioning democracy and replaced it with the Shah to install his fascist rule.
    It all was orchestrated from the US embassy. Consequently the Shah was removed together with the embassy.


    And here the US got a problem with Russia and their little involvement in their elections. What a freaking massive joke that is.
     
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    Nice try and splitting hairs. We supported Saddam because he was opposed to Iran. Whether or not he was at war at the time is completely irrelevant.

    Assad is a Muslim at least he pretends to be, having support from the local Christians does not make him a Christian any more than Obama was a Catholic because he got most of the Hispanic vote.

    I stand corrected on the Iran part, I mixed up my Ayotollas with my Shas. Once again, NONE of them were Christian and we ended up losing Iran in the end.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have know idea on what this has to do with the topic. Can you please explain?
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So Leftists are anti Islam. That seems to run contrary to what Leftists generally have to say.
     
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    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    And the best way to prevent them from 'staining' us is not to let them cause us to be intolerant ourselves.

    Noone is saying anything about turning cheeks, simply leave people alone unless they bother you

    So??

    You have to understand that NOBODY, even us, are Christians, Buddhists, Hindus or anything else as dictators at that level. Even the leaders of ISIS aren't really practicing any religion but the worship of power, which is what religion is and has been about throughout mankind's history.
     
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    Please tell me what Leftists are these. I get called for making straw men a lot because I actually come out and say that people who state categorically that they fervently believe we MUST remain a "white majority" country are racists but I always hear this bushwa that "leftists" just love ISIS and fundamentalist Islam. We don't believe that ALL 1.5 BILLION muslims are busily plotting to kill us 24/7 no. but how that then indicates that we're all secret followers of the Ayatollah Killface sort of escapes me
     
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    That's of no excuse. And the US has mingled in Iraqi affairs way before that in a massive way.

    He has been helped by the orthodox Russians... since way back in the time of the USSR.

    I consider the west rather Christian, and they removed a democratically elected government to install fascist rule
     
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    Only 200 million of them. Polls show that Muslims routinely support violent radical Islam including using force against infidels and the death penalty for people that renounce Islam (that last one is actually much higher than 20%) at a consistent 15-20%. If you ask Christians about whether or not they support abortion clinic bombings or blowing up a Federal building and murdering people you would be lucky to reach 1%. I can only guess at this since I couldn't google any polls on support for or against abortion clinic bombings. I was raised in the WELS which is arguably one of the most conservative religous sects of the Lutheran religion there is and abortion clinic violence was routinely and soundly denounce by our pastors.
     
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    Once again, Assad wasn't put in power he took power and various sides supported him. We provide far more support for Japan and Germany and we had full out wars with millions of deaths with those two countries. Our support has NOTHING to do with religion, it has everything to do with politics and "strategy" LOL. Sorry I can't use CIA or US Government and strategy in the same sentence without laughing my ass off.

    We did get the Shah in there but that was for oil and because the Brits were to ****ing lazy to do their own dirty work. The Sha was a Muslim. As you can see that coup wasn't very successful cause it lead to the Iran we have today which is a much bigger problem.

    I don't disagree with the US meddling in foreign countries being obnoxious and if you think what we did in the Middle East was bad don't read about what we did in Latin America cause that was far far worse.

    If you want to find "Christian" dictators you have to go to Latin America where we DID in fact put many of those people in power. The ME however is a mess entirely because of Islam.
     
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    "Truth and Justice" made the "Leftists" claim. You'll have to take it up with him.
     
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    That's racist.
    People know that most Muslims don't eat children.
     
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    You said:

    "So Leftists are anti Islam. That seems to run contrary to what Leftists generally have to say."

    If you're quoting someone else you have to let your reader know
    I'm talking about leftists not muslims

    You people can't even keep your misrepresentations straight anymore.
     
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    Try and keep up with your own posts. Your words....

     
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    So you DO believe that all 1.5 Billion muslims are plotting to kill us 24/7??

    Why are we just noticing it NOW? I mean, yes, Islam has always seemed a little hostile to the West, but generally we can go and travel there, we trade with them, they are not in a constant state of warfare with us. Why just since 9/11 have we they suddenly transformed into these implacable and murderous enemies?

    And more importantly what do you think should be done about it. You're talking 1.5 BILLION people, ALL of whom are potential murderers of us and our families, what should we do?
     
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    It's about abusing the authority that the school have on children and abusing the confidence children they have in their teacher to force children to pray in a religion, in this specific case it's Islam. Even if it's not hundred, once is enough.
    And it's quite fortunate that the abuse was gone so far they put headscarf on the children. What's next ? That's not too much an abuse because they didn't said the shahada and weren't send to mecca ?
     
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    All Muslim apologists should be forced to watch the scene in Bitter Lake of a madrassa in full swing, then they won't be so apathetic.
     
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    Oh Come on there is no way they will have been forced to Pray. They were only getting an idea of what it was like. Almost all our Muslim children go to state schools like everyone else. There is only one specialist Muslim School. Even without having Muslims as a classmate, learning what other people do is very much part of childhood. After the killing of Lee Rigby some of the mothers kept their kids away. The irony was that the Mosque they were going to was an Ahmadiyya one - extremists are as keen to kill them as anyone else. The kids usually have a great day and come home with a handful of sweets not the Koran.
     
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    Christian countries shaped Western, African, Eastern and ME countries........'cause they are big rich and strong, now ppl can try to stand up on their own two feet or dedicate their lives for revenge, that is purely their choice.
     
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    Maybe it's worth it to give up our values and thousands of years of Western culture if it keeps the Muslims from bombing us.
     
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    Nothing bad happens to children that know how to dress and who to marry.
     
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    Why not?

     
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    :roflol:
    You must not have kids.
     

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