Every day hundreds of Dutch school children are forced to bow to Islam

and they know that Christians do

 

I will repeat what I said, you don't have to make children pray to give them an idea of how muslims pray. I didn't reproached anything to their host, only to the school. I don't doubt that this imam may be nice, and I won't reproach an imam to want to convert people. But, and that's true for any religion, even if the laws about apostasy in some muslims countries make that even more problematic with islam, that's for me clearly a child abuse.

There is maybe a cultural problem in that, I come from a culture rather antitheist. But from my point of view, it's extremly shocking and I would be shocked even for a religion I would have sympathy with.

I keep that kind of sensitive informations for me. We never know what kind of sickos there is on this forum.

Western european culture is already dead. It was replaced by a sub american culture. And it's not even the good part of american culture, just dumb mass hip hop culture, man-child culture and reality TV. Foreigners are often particulary agent of this subculture. It's like they put in the trash can the european culture and took the worst of american culture. That's the global so-called "culture".

 

Try and understand it is not about converting. It is just allowing the children to meet, see and feel what it is like for people who are Muslims in their place of worship. We know that the more people know another people the more open they are to them. I mean that by avoiding racism and hatred of people because of their religion. I have a feeling that is probably behind most of the stuff going on. People not wanting the kids to feel comfortable. There is no intention to convert as you keep saying. It is saying 'hello' and that I think is what those who want an ethnic nationalist culture for obvious reasons would not want.

 

I just say that they could have presented the religion without making them take position. You want to show them, ok but don't make them do. I want an nationalist culture, but I want even less an open civil war.

 

Once and again. Assad and his entire family are in power because them Orthodox Christians in Russia want it to be. Them Russians had diplomatic ties 2 years before the country became independent. The year the Assad family rose to power, was 1 year before Russia got their massive naval base in Syria.

So quit ya whining.

So quit ya whining.

Nope. You can not have an obnoxious super power bombing 1 country in the ME after the other, supporting ethnic cleansing in the ME elsewhere, supporting coups, supporting WMD warfare... to than claim the mess is ... ENTIRELY... because of Islam. It just aint.

 

Looks like they just had a visit. Your idea that they were forced... like with what? how? What were the consequences if they declined? Come on. Let's hear it! It's already fake that 100's of children do this ... every day. Seems obvious we can add the idea that they were forced. The Netherlands is a secular country with laws. Mind you. I have yet to see 1 parent filing a lawsuit at the courts about this. And they can drag this all the way to the EU courts about the rights of their children.

Didn't happen

 

You still got groups who support colonizing like in the good ol' days. Ethnic cleansing the indigenous away. And as a reprisal they get a knife in their neck. That's not so much of a choice of the indigenous, but the choice of the war criminals thug colonizers risking their lives for the backward values. And so your idea that this is "being shaped"... it's actually being violently oppressed.

 

and as I said that is the reason people do not want them to meet the Muslims and make friends. That would not bring up children interested in ethnic nationalism.

 

Teachers and school have authority on the children and children tend to trust and obey their teachers.
Parents doesn't have always the money or want to take the risk to be flagged as islamophobic and get them and their children targetted by leftists and muslims. Theo Van Gogh was murdered for his bad relations with Islam. Their is the head cutters, and there is the leftist thought police, quick to brand people as "fascist" and their thugs, the antifa.

There is people who would like to be friends with muslims and don't meet any. That's quite funny to see a french newspaper like "Liberation" if I remember well (maybe l'humanité or another leftist newspaper) being pro-"diversity" (the said diversity is just an illusion, because despite the different colour of skin, that's all globalist sub culture, there is nothing about culture), they're all white.
The same for a french leftist youtuber, all for the left, diversity, and when you see his fanbase, it's even more white than a KKK meetin. In the end people have difficulties too mix.
Anyway, it's not any hugs that will make people forget the terrorist attacks, or the problems of the arabic thugs that assault people for a gaze. Some people grow up and learn to avoid arabic people, not by hatred, but because some of the arab people will beat you to death for some stupid reasons like a gaze. By the way, not all arabic people are like that, and they're very likely a minority, but people who grew up with that kind of thugs in their neighbourhood keep the same reflexs.

 

@alexa And it doesn't change we're living in dark ages from a cultural point of view. Our culture looks like how we treat nature. From the hundred of different species or sub species of vegetable we cultivated, there is just a few dozen now. Dozens and dozen of wild animal and vegetal species disappear every years and today, the culture looks like the same everywhere in the world.
Everywhere it's the same stupid pop culture.
What's the most interesting ? Traditionnal european music, traditionnal persian music, traditionnal hindu music, traditionnal mongolian music, traditionnal chinese music, every set of music with so much subtleties and specificities or just the same pop music everywhere ?

That's already a tendancy that already exist, but mass migration just create a bunch of people without roots, and accelarate the phenomenon.

Ironic, we have the biggest library that ever existed, the internet, and we're all consulting the same shelf of books.

 

The report did not mention muslim kids being taken to Catholic church to attend mass

 

Did the US invade Egypt, Libya, Lebanon, Pakistan, Yemen etc? No we didn't invade those countries at most we supported a faction or in the case of Libya we bombed Qaddafi's house. The list of countries that we DIDN'T invade is far longer than the ones we did and yet they ALL of them are fundamentalist theocracies with primitive medieval societies. If the country is majority Islam it is dysfunctional, authoritarian, repressive and denies its minority populations the right to exist in many cases (the LGBT community for example). There are ZERO examples of Islamic countries that rank other than the very bottom of the Freedom Index......NONE.

We dropped far far far more bombs on Japan and Germany fairly recently and yet both of those countries turned into successful democracies. So you argument about dropping bombs and invading is complete bullshit. Islam is the problem not previous wars. Hell the ONLY true democracy in the ME (I don't count Israel cause they won't let their Arab population vote) is in fact Iraq, one fo the countries we DID invade, and right now Iraq has a super popular Prime Minister and is on the road to success. Its unfortunate that it took ISIS and nearly losing all of its territory to finally wake them up.

 

This is why I am against forced prayer in schools and am a huge supporter of Separation of Church and State. No one should be forced to bow down to any god like in the dark ages of the U.S. (the 1950's).

 

It's "fake news."

 

I was talking about here. Children go on visits to Mosques here. Children going to Catholic Church's. Catholic Churches! You do realise this is Scotland!

That being said, Catholics and Muslims tend to get on very well. I think some of them go to Catholic Schools.

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Now I think this was a Protestant Church, But it was snowing and Muslims in Aberdeen were praying in the snow so the minister brought them in and they shared the church until the snow cleared - and all kinds of bigots went crazy on the net.

 

We are indeed in the 'post truth era'. If everything is true does that mean that nothing is true?

 

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I thought it just meant no one told the truth.

 

Oh my god that's my first grade classroom, and Miss Yonshus herself

 

You attacked Muslims on their treatment of gays. So what do you think of two men kissing in public? Are you scared to answer the question?

 

You clearly fail in logic! Try and learn what is right wing ideology. Islam is very right wing. Clearly you know nothing about Islam to even ask the question!

 

Try telling the truth for once

 

Are the perps spreading BS with smiles on their faces or are they clueless enough to believe all this nonsense?

 

This is the internet, probably they neither know nor care. The problem is there ARE people who take all this theatre seriously, and some of them are in the Congress, or maybe even higher.

 

LOL you guys are idiots, thats just a lesson where they learn about islam, the week after that they visit a catholic church then protestants then Synagogue.

LOL