Evolution is a Religion - VIII

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  1. Imnotreallyhere

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    Evolution is also not re-creatable. That is to say, we cannot re-create the results. And so it remains a theory, not a law.
     
  2. Imnotreallyhere

    Imnotreallyhere Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whichever way it went, it had happen simultaneously. Seems highly unlikely to me. Not really discussing human manipulation.
     
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    That's because science doesn't care about supernatural sky fathers. That's religion's job.
    Yeah, but those "mathamaticians"[sic] are creationist nutjobs.
     
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    Not denying evolution. Just pointing out problems with the theory that need to be clarified.


    Sorry about the typo. nobody's perfick.
    But in truth those math boys [cleverly avoiding spelling problem] are logicians, not creationist nutjobs.

    Denying there are problems in Evolutionary theory seems as faith based as any religion to me.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    I'll put my faith in science before religion every time.

    Would you rather fly on a plane designed by an aeronautical engineer, or a priest?
     
  6. Imnotreallyhere

    Imnotreallyhere Well-Known Member Donor

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    Seems to me you probably believe in the Big Bang Theory. It was first proposed by a priest.

    Being religious does not make one an incompetent scientist, engineer or technician. You are proposing a false dichotomy, a logical fallacy.
     
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    A Catholic priest.
    Some religions are better at accepting reality than others.

    Speaking of the Catholic church.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution_and_the_Catholic_Church

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    Gregor Mendel - DNA from the Beginning

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    Gregor Mendel, through his work on pea plants, discovered the fundamental laws of inheritance. He deduced that genes come in pairs and are inherited as distinct units, one from each parent. Mendel tracked the segregation of parental genes and their appearance in the offspring as dominant or recessive traits.
     
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    Seems to me you're deflecting from my point. My idea being that your blind faith in evolution mirrors the blind faith of the most fundamentalist Christian.

    BTW, though I am not Catholic, I am Christian. I have no problem with science or faith. I see how they complement each other.
     
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    some believe in the magic approach that some God popped into existence and than created humans from dust... Seems highly unlikely to me.
     
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    There really isn’t.

    Scientific theory is the established fact. Mathematicians aren’t biologists or geneticists.
     
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    We do it daily in the lab.

    Theory is the highest level in science. The theory of revolution remains the most tested and supported theory in all of science.
     
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    I always find it weird that the people claiming evolution is a religion are almost all really religious people who normally put a lot of value in religion.
     
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    Were that the case, you'd never have bought into the fairytale that your great great great great granddaddy was "condescended" from a monkey.
    Maybe the parallel wouldn't be retarded if you weren't comparing an untestable hypothesis to hypotheses that get tested hundreds of times every day.
    Do you really imagine Christians put a lot of value in satanism?
     
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    It's all just religious belief, no different than Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Buddhism, Shinto, etc...

    It's very possible that the Theory of Evolution is true. There certainly is evidence for it, but evidence is not in any way a proof. When it comes down to it, we simply do not know whether or not the theory is true. We can't test its null hypothesis. It is not falsifiable. It is simply a religious belief.
     
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    Genetic mutations in current life forms does NOT mean that current life forms resulted from the mutations of more primitive life forms.
     
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    evolution is fact, the theory of how we evolved is based on the evidence we have

    Religion is based on mythical stories without evidence

    but if we want to teach FSM in science class, could be fun for the kids
     
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    You changed the quote... It's not "earlier life", it's "earlier life forms". Yes, my parents needed to be alive in order for me to be alive... But did modern humans descend from monkeys?? That's simply religious belief. We weren't there to observe it...

    It's the truth.

    "You don't understand" mantra dismissed on sight... Address the arguments or there's nothing more to say...
     
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    Every available physical observation points to us sharing a common ancestor with apes. You'd have to really torture the definition of religion beyond any reasonable recognition to try to shoehorn that into being a "religion."

    The "arguments" generally reflect a straw man version of evolution, not actual evolutionary theory.
     
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    You forgot to post the link!
     
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    There are endless examples of evolution observed in other species. Of course the evolution of apes into man or single cell organisms into apes is not reproducible given the time involved

    But then you can't reproduce Jesus either nor can you reproduce rising from the dead, etc,etc,etc.
     
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    Fun until the real world bites 'em is the a$$.
     
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    A fact is not a universal truth or a proof. A fact is simply shorthand predicate. A fact may or may not be truthful.

    Evidence is not a proof.

    No. Religion is an initial circular argument with other arguments stemming from it. It need not be based on mythical stories, and it does too have evidence. Evidence is simply any statement which supports an argument. It is essentially a predicate.

    FSM is not science. It is religion.
     
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    No offense, but science requires that results be reproducible. This is why evolution is a theory rather than a law. data comes from where ever you can get it.

    Your fanatic attachment to Darwin, denying the problems. shows all the same symptoms of a fundamentalist Christian defending the Bible.
     
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    Actually not.


    Actually not. Law is the highest level in science. The theory of evolution has problems. Google them.
     
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    I'm not trying to claim that God is provable. You are trying to claim that evolution is. There's a difference.

    I'm not interested in the difficulties with your proof. I simply note that it doesn't exist.
     
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