Ex-FBI lawyer to plead guilty in Durham look at Russia probe

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  1. The Mello Guy

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    It was material to determine who was colluding.
     
  2. struth

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    no it wasn’t they knew there was no comspiracy with russia...and the phone call was “legit” according to the fbi

    this was a hit job to undermine the election.
     
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    Yea I know right? Who cares if a “process crime” from a law enforcement official can actually put people in jail, as opposed to a private citizen process crime which effects virtually no one.

    Out of curiosity , would you feel the same if he possible put a black dude in jail due to this “process crime?

    Also do you think law enforcement should be held to a higher standard?
     
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    It was Edward Snowden that began the cascade of revelations into the vast amount of information being stored by the Obama Administration that could be exploited.

    IT WOULD BE A KICK IN THE FACE TO THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY, WHICH DESERVES IT AFTER CONSPIRING AGAINST TRUMP. WHICH DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN IT’S A GOOD IDEA. Trump Raises Edward Snowden Pardon Hopes 4 Years After Barack Obama Said No.
    I'd like to hear more regarding the pros and cons of this.
     
  5. The Mello Guy

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    How would this put anyone in jail? You mean if they accidentally caught him conspiring with Russia using a warrant that contained mistakes?
    Yah I’d be ok with that lol
     
  6. Bluesguy

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    Yes it is what they said your denials nothwithstanding, this is about THIS plea not Flynn's and the circumstances despite those denials try to focus.
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    Here's how

    "One not-so-small detail: The CIA had told the FBI as early as August 2016 that Mr. Page had been an “operational contact” for the CIA from 2008 to 2013. This was highly exculpatory information, yet the FBI didn’t include it in its first three applications to surveil Mr. Page.


    Only after Mr. Page publicly stated in spring 2017 that he’d assisted the U.S. government was Mr. Clinesmith, an FBI assistant general counsel, tasked with asking the CIA if this were true. His request to the agency noted that the FBI would “need to disclose” such a fact “in our next [surveillance] renewal.” The CIA in June 2017 confirmed Mr. Page’s CIA service. Yet Mr. Clinesmith told a supervisory FBI agent the opposite, and he later altered the CIA email to include the words “not a source.” The fourth warrant application did not include Mr. Page’s CIA history.


    Mr. Clinesmith’s attorney says his client didn’t intend to mislead the court. But Mr. Clinesmith also sent text messages expressing hostility to Mr. Trump’s 2016 election. Mr. Clinesmith was part of the Crossfire Hurricane investigating team and later moved over to Robert Mueller’s special counsel team. The press is reporting that he intends to plead guilty.

    The charge is a felony offense, and this is no garden variety “false statement.” The charging information says Mr. Clinesmith “willfully and knowingly” altered a document that deceived a court and caused an American to be unjustly targeted for secret surveillance. It’s an abuse by the surveillance state that liberals usually find horrifying—except, apparently, when the target is a political opponent."
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-fbis-2016-abuse-turns-criminal-11597445427?mod=opinion_lead_pos2

    This guy was not only part of the original scheme but then moved to the bias'd Mueller investigation to tray and continue his cover up.
     
  8. struth

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    a corrupt cop undermines the entire system
     
  9. The Mello Guy

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    No they said he showed no signs of lying, not that he didn’t lie
     
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    That cia info is more damning. After russians tried to recruit him he continued trying to cozy up to the Kremlin
    He was trying to be a Russian asset
     
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    Oh I expect Durham to bet to the CIA too this is just the first step on the CIA side. It was a CIA operative who tried to recruit him and he refused. They lied in a FISA warrant in order to spy on a private citizen, what are you missing here. That's a felony and they did it to try and get a door into the campaign.
     
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    They said he was not trying to be deceptive. Why were they even interviewing him?
     
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    the transcript proves he djdnt the call was legit
     
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    I thought he worked for the cia, now they’re the bad guys? Lol
    He never worked for the campaign, definitely not when they got the warrants.
     
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    That’s false. Let’s pretend it’s not...so pence lied to the nation? That’s your defense of flynn? And trump lied about why he fired him?
     
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    when did pence lie? no trump fired him because of what corrupt comey told him

    there is no defense there was no crime. Comey and the obamagate gang lied
     
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    Pence said Flynn told him that he didn’t discuss sanctions when he clearly did. why did Pence and trump throw him under the bus? Did he lie to pence or not? Why would anyone think he lied to pence but NOT the fbi??? Pence knows what he was told.
     
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    Being that this is a Russia thing I have all the confidence in the world the country's far most authority on the issue, Rachel Maddow covered this development.
     
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    the transcript doesn’t show him doing that
     
  20. The Mello Guy

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    Doesn’t show him discussing sanctions?

    is that what you’re going with? I know you’re going to pretend you mean something else when I post the quote. So just save us both some time.
     
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    nope he simply said don’t over react.

    the call was legit according to the fbi.
     
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    People keep forgetting this:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna711226

    (while not a huge fan of anon sources, what’s good for the goose is good for the gander)
     
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    yep it was legit and therefore no bases to conduct the interview that Yates said Comey went rogue on
     
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    Strzok and Page edited Pientka's original 302 covering the Flynn "interrogation". The original 302 is still missing, lol. Why not just publish it so we can see? Text messages between Strzok and Page indicate that Pientka's 302 was massively re-edited from the original.

    All over a possible violation of the Logan Act. A law nobody, since it's passage in 1799, has ever been convicted for breaking.
     
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    Over react to what?
     

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